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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 am  
Meh. easily explained if you're a conspiracy junkie a la David Icke, (and we do have a couple in our midst people :) ) It is that Silverwood is a reptilian humanoid, and it's yet another example of the Babylonian Brotherhood's devious ways!

Or he could simply have been in the wrong position. Fill yer boots with whatever floats your boat. Webb to get a warning, TMFMISL maybe a one match ban.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:03 pm  
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The Webb charge is a joke, absolutely ridiculous. I have no idea what is going on when a player is charged for something like that.

Bailey pushed Silverwood for no reason and should be charged. He was not impeded by the ref, there wasn't a Warrington player in front of Bailey, he had no need to put hands on the ref and I think he knew exactly what he was doing. Not acceptable.


This.

Whether the referee is in the way at the tap penalty restart or not, no player, - not even Bailey - should be engaging in deliberate physical contact with any match official.

When Ben Cross was sin-binned at Widnes in the opening round this season Ali Lauitiiti patted Ben Thaler on the back and was rightly admonished by the official.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:05 pm  
Next time maybe Bailey will lead with a rasied knee on Silverwood.

Seeing as we are getting silly.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:37 pm  
The raised knee was an issue when it occurred but it appears to have been successfully addressed for now so we can discuss any new areas of concern as and when they present themselves, hopefully with the same positive outcome.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:38 pm  
Presumably a player, on finding himself impeded by a match official, should in future simply cough loudly, wait for the official to turn and give his full attention, then politely request that he moves?

By which point the referee will indeed have moved, probably to the back of the in-goal area to award a try.

In almost 40 years watching the game I've seen plenty of referees get inadvertently caught up in play and contacted by players, some even being knocked off their feet as a result. The normal outcome is that they pick themselves up, have a little chuckle with the players around them and the game goes on.

If the game has moved on to the point where making minimal contact with an official in trying to get past them to your spot in the defensive line is worthy of a three game ban, I'm not sure I want to move with it.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:42 pm  
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If the game has moved on to the point where making minimal contact with an official in trying to get past them to your spot in the defensive line is worthy of a three game ban, I'm not sure I want to move with it.


Alot of logic in your post Andy.

Key bit as well for me is the 'minimal contact'. There's no shove, malice or 'Di Cannio' moment.

Just people trying to do their jobs.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:46 pm  
I can agree with all that and hopefully once the incident has been reviewed in detail they will arrive at a sensible conclusion.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:46 pm  
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I can agree with all that and hopefully once the incident has been reviewed in detail they will arrive at a sensible conclusion.


Ikram Butt is on the panel, so expect the sensible conclusion.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:23 pm  
Having watched it back, i've seen the same thing happen loads of times over the years. He was stood in the wrong place FFS, had it been any other official nothing more would have been said. But this is silverwood the same man that hates Leeds, the same man that hates Webb and Bailey even more, this is the same official that was suspended at the end of last season for something that happened at a Leeds game he had nothing to do with.It's a good job Keef wasn't on the pitch otherwise he would've been up aswell (even if he was defending on the other side).
This man has a problem with our club and goes back well before the WCC game. Like others have said it's the official that was in the wrong place (he was in front of the line of defence).

I am not saying it is ok to touch the Ref (lets face most of us do from time to time), but common sense has to prevale in this instance. Cummins needs to have a word on both his positioning and his anti leeds bias.


Oh hang on Cummins wrote the book on anti leeds bias, we're screwed.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:06 pm  
Certainly will be interesting next time Silverwood refs at Headingley, especially if any bans issued later.
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