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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:43 pm  
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I am a qualified mental health practitioner, if there are any specific aspects people are unsure of I can try and help.

I actually think rugby league does a lot more than pretty much all other sports in trying to break down mental health and male mental health stigmas in particular.


I agree about rugby league being ahead of other sports.

Interested to know your genuine thoughts on the growing number of 'bad lads' who are 'brave enough' to come out and talk about their mental health issues after they've been caught up to no good.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:33 pm  
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I agree about rugby league being ahead of other sports.

Interested to know your genuine thoughts on the growing number of 'bad lads' who are 'brave enough' to come out and talk about their mental health issues after they've been caught up to no good.


I get where you are coming from but think that might be a bit of a loaded question.

None of us on here have the foggiest idea about Hardaker's mental health. From my uninformed position of not knowing the man, he appears to go from extremes of highs to lows, in the manner of people with bi-polar traits. Not saying he is because I have'nt a clue.

I had a cousin (no longer with us) a bit older than me who was always changing jobs in the 60's and 70's and always seeming to get into bother. One day my mum (who suffered badly with depression, it effectively led to her early death) explained that my cousin had been diagnosed with a split personality disorder. I listened attentively and then later asked my dad for his opinion.

My old man thought about it for a few seconds and with a straight face replied it was very sad because he did'nt like either of them. My old man never really got it.

IMO Hardaker has done right opening up about it and even if part of it is to elicit sympathy, he is still a young and possibly still fairly immature guy trying to find his way in the world and clearly at times, struggling to do so. I wish him all the best whether that be down under or back in Super league.

I've not learned a lot over the years but as I get older I think the majority of people have to walk a difficult road (to a greater or lesser extent).
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 am  
So what some have said on here basically is that Hardakers interview is full of lies, though the people suggesting this don't actually know him or the situation. Cynicism in these situations serves only the person who holds that view, and that's great for them until you have a Terry Newton situation.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:05 am  
Jeez people go so over the top on here.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:11 am  
Are you F'in serious?!
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:44 am  
Diazepam, tramadol and alcohol. There's his problem. Knock them on the head and he may learn how to cope with life. There are heroin addicts on less lethal cocktails than that.
Talented rugby player. Car crash of a man.
He owes Leeds much better than one outstanding season then going on the p#ss......whatever his justifications.


For all of those who buy into these people who claim to have depression post being 'caught out'.
Symptoms of depression...lethargy, lack of self care, weight loss or gain, insomnia, lack of interest and motivation in anything.
Hmmmm Well turned out managed a game of pro rugby a week (to a much reduced standard this year). Seemed relatively fit Mr Hardaker.

Symptoms of opiate, benzodiazepine and alcohol misuse.....well a much reduced sporting performance for a professional athlete for starters. A focusing on the using of said drugs over other things in their life...lowering of mood, anxiety. That and a whole host of others.

Amazing how these folks who claim to have depression or bi polar always have a severe drug/alcohol misuse problem which is never an issue until caught.

They also never have a personality disorder which is often more clinically accurate.

Mental illness is a catastrophe for people and their families who suffer it. It has horrific and lethal effects. Mental illnesses are very real.

However the continued justification by some (and their employed doctors and lawyers) to justify their appalling behaviour by claiming to be mentally ill when caught (often smashed on drugs and drink) undermines those with the conditions and others attempts to get them recognised as the debilitating, fatal conditions they can be.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:52 am  
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Diazepam, tramadol and alcohol. There's his problem. Knock them on the head and he may learn how to cope with life. There are heroin addicts on less lethal cocktails than that.
Talented rugby player. Car crash of a man.
He owes Leeds much better than one outstanding season then going on the mickey......whatever his justifications.


100% agreed.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:17 am  
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Diazepam, tramadol and alcohol. There's his problem. Knock them on the head and he may learn how to cope with life. There are heroin addicts on less lethal cocktails than that.
Talented rugby player. Car crash of a man.
He owes Leeds much better than one outstanding season then going on the p#ss......whatever his justifications.


For all of those who buy into these people who claim to have depression post being 'caught out'.
Symptoms of depression...lethargy, lack of self care, weight loss or gain, insomnia, lack of interest and motivation in anything.
Hmmmm Well turned out managed a game of pro rugby a week (to a much reduced standard this year). Seemed relatively fit Mr Hardaker.

Symptoms of opiate, benzodiazepine and alcohol misuse.....well a much reduced sporting performance for a professional athlete for starters. A focusing on the using of said drugs over other things in their life...lowering of mood, anxiety. That and a whole host of others.

Amazing how these folks who claim to have depression or bi polar always have a severe drug/alcohol misuse problem which is never an issue until caught.

They also never have a personality disorder which is often more clinically accurate.

Mental illness is a catastrophe for people and their families who suffer it. It has horrific and lethal effects. Mental illnesses are very real.

However the continued justification by some (and their employed doctors and lawyers) to justify their appalling behaviour by claiming to be mentally ill when caught (often smashed on drugs and drink) undermines those with the conditions and others attempts to get them recognised as the debilitating, fatal conditions they can be.


Again it should be pointed out, he never claimed to have depression.
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Re: Hardaker opens up about his demons : Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:38 pm  


Ah s**t

He was very honest about his deamonds on this thread...

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=586889&start=150


Ah s**t

He was very honest about his deamonds on this thread...

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=586889&start=150
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