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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:01 am  
I'd rather have me than Griffin!!! Must be more BDLs around.
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:38 am  
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There is not only me and me only in possession of these "absolute facts". Take it as a guarantee though, both existing UK brothers will not be in Aus next year unless their mum goes, no matter what the desires or rumours are.


Is Tom going to souths also?
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:19 am  
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A strike rate of better than 1 in 2?


It only becomes a strike rate of better than 1 in 2 if you ignore the 70 games he played from the bench. I realise it's a generalisation but props have a tendency to play around half of each game they're selected in whether they start those games in the run on side or sat on the bench.

A comparison of strike rates among Leeds current/recently departed props during their Headingley careers show:

Jamie Peacock - 17 in 151 = 0.113 per game
Kylie Leuluai - 15 in 139 = 0.108
Luke Ambler - 1 in 10 = 0.100
Luke Burgess - 6 in 81 = 0.074
Ryan Bailey - 9 in 233 = 0.039

Ben Cross left without scoring and Kyle Amor, Brad Singleton are yet to score.

Leeds' prop with the highest strike rate during the SL Era was George Mann (although he deputised at 6 at times) here he is with a select of others:

George Mann - 4 in 19 = 0.211 per game
Jamie Thackray - 7 in 34 = 0.206
Wayne McDonald - 15 in 91 = 0.165
Barrie McDermott - 40 in 268 = 0.149
Chris Feather - 8 in 56 = 0.143
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Jamie Mathiou - 4 in 136 = 0.029 (saving Bailey's blushes)
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:06 pm  
tvoc wrote:
It only becomes a strike rate of better than 1 in 2 if you ignore the 70 games he played from the bench. I realise it's a generalisation but props have a tendency to play around half of each game they're selected in whether they start those games in the run on side or sat on the bench.

A comparison of strike rates among Leeds current/recently departed props during their Headingley careers show:

Jamie Peacock - 17 in 151 = 0.113 per game
Kylie Leuluai - 15 in 139 = 0.108
Luke Ambler - 1 in 10 = 0.100
Luke Burgess - 6 in 81 = 0.074
Ryan Bailey - 9 in 233 = 0.039

Ben Cross left without scoring and Kyle Amor, Brad Singleton are yet to score.

Leeds' prop with the highest strike rate during the SL Era was George Mann (although he deputised at 6 at times) here he is with a select of others:

George Mann - 4 in 19 = 0.211 per game
Jamie Thackray - 7 in 34 = 0.206
Wayne McDonald - 15 in 91 = 0.165
Barrie McDermott - 40 in 268 = 0.149
Chris Feather - 8 in 56 = 0.143
............
Jamie Mathiou - 4 in 136 = 0.029 (saving Bailey's blushes)


Chris feaher has a better "Strike rate" than I would have guessed at. At Baileys rate of scoring he will be below Mathiou by the end of his leeds career!
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:13 pm  
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Chris feaher has a better "Strike rate" than I would have guessed at. At Baileys rate of scoring he will be below Mathiou by the end of his leeds career!

If Bailey's rate of scoring is above Mathiou's how will he be below Mathiou by the end of his Leeds career. :CRAZY:
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:14 pm  
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If Bailey's rate of scoring is above Mathiou's how will he be below Mathiou by the end of his Leeds career. :CRAZY:


Unless he stops playing now it would seem pretty clear wouldn't it. He will play more games and therefore the strike rate will reduce.

Or have I missed something?
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:17 pm  
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Unless he stops playing now it would seem pretty clear wouldn't it. He will play more games and therefore the strike rate will reduce.

Or have I missed something?



No thats how I worked it out, unless I am misunderstanding the more games he plays without scoring the lower his strike rate would get.
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:18 pm  
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Unless he stops playing now it would seem pretty clear wouldn't it. He will play more games and therefore the strike rate will reduce.

Or have I missed something?


if he continues at the same strike rate of 0.039 his strike rate will be ......

yes you've guessed it 0.039. Which will still be higher than Jamie Matthiou at 0.029.
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:19 pm  
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If Bailey's rate of scoring is above Mathiou's how will he be below Mathiou by the end of his Leeds career. :CRAZY:


:shock:

unless I am very wrong I would think the :CRAZY: has not been earned in this case!
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Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:21 pm  
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:shock:

unless I am very wrong I would think the :CRAZY: has not been earned in this case!

you are very wrong
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