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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:49 am  
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Absolute rubbish. You have not called someone a puff? don't talk daft. Many people are lying over their use of these terms. Yes they are not meaning it with any prejudice, but the majority do say it.

So:
1: Its acceptable in the family game
2: Its acceptable in society
3: Its acceptable 'cos he's a Leeds player

Well lets hope we dont have sponsors start pulling out of the game then with a rep like that
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:59 am  
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So:
1: Its acceptable in the family game
2: Its acceptable in society
3: Its acceptable 'cos he's a Leeds player

Well lets hope we dont have sponsors start pulling out of the game then with a rep like that



Look back on previous page. You were the one who said "proven homophobe". I asked you if you were also as I bet you had used the terms. I further said people saying otherwise, IMO are liars. And that term isn't even shown as something Hardaker said.

The only thing unacceptable is the prejudice on the lad himself. Implying he is guilty of something without the proof to back it up.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:02 am  
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Look back on previous page. You were the one who said "proven homophobe". I asked you if you were also as I bet you had used the terms. I further said people saying otherwise, IMO are liars. And that term isn't even shown as something Hardaker said.

The only thing unacceptable is the prejudice on the lad himself. Implying he is guilty of something without the proof to back it up.

Banned once before, charged again. If he's banned again, what does that say?

Oddly his "self defence" on twitter has now gone....
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:11 am  
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Oddly his "self defence" on twitter has now gone....

Easily rediscovered on there.
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Oddly his "self defence" on twitter has now gone....

Easily rediscovered on there.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:17 am  
A Hull fan chelping on about morals? You'd know all about making yourselves look like c***s on live television.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:22 am  
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Banned once before, charged again. If he's banned again, what does that say?

Oddly his "self defence" on twitter has now gone....



He is not charged again, that is the point. Do you really not see the difference?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:26 am  
Trial by internet in general and twitter in particular is one of the more odious facets of having the internet in general and twitter in particular. I don't suppose it's going anywhere though.

It isn't as if people are new to making foolish pre-judgements, it's just that now they get to do it in public and harangue the accused with them as well. From the safety of their keyboard and without any recourse. If I was famous, I'd stay well and truly off twitter, or at least hide myself better so only my friends could find me.

As I said much earlier on this ridiculously long thread, I will let others better placed judge the guy's guilt or innocence (meaning people who actually heard it, not the army of people who are suddenly expert lip readers).

It is at least pleasing in the era of presumed guilt on the internet that his new friends at the Canalsiders have offered their support to him. I don't have the impression that they think he's a homophobe. His alleged victim doesn't seem too upset about it.

If he's genuinely guilty then I would have very little sympathy, but I have to wonder where the complaints the RFL is investigating have come from.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:27 am  
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A Hull fan chelping on about morals? You'd know all about making yourselves look like c***s on live television.


Sorry, do you have some reason to suppose that this particular Hull fan has been in some way involved with an offence, televised or otherwise?

Or am I responsible for the actions of all Leeds fans as well? I'd like not to be, if it's all the same to you.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:34 am  
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Sorry, do you have some reason to suppose that this particular Hull fan has been in some way involved with an offence, televised or otherwise?

Or am I responsible for the actions of all Leeds fans as well? I'd like not to be, if it's all the same to you.

He must have a big brush and a lot of tar
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:13 pm  
Its less trial by social media than reporting via social media. The issue is being looked at as aresult of twitter etc, but the trial should only deal with the facts.

Also, in a time where we slate the RFL for being out of touch and not knowing what theyre doing its good to see them listening to the fans, lets hope they do it for more than just some alleged abuse which occurred on the field
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