Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:31 pm  

Vespid_Wire wrote:

The only bitter person I see here is you.

I don't often go on other clubs forums because I don't want to get drawn in to silly tribal stuff and I don't know what your opinion is either,but you know as well as anyone that should Hardaker become available for whatever reason Warrington would be at the front trying to sign him

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:51 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

Its less trial by social media than reporting via social media. The issue is being looked at as aresult of twitter etc, but the trial should only deal with the facts.

Also, in a time where we slate the RFL for being out of touch and not knowing what theyre doing its good to see them listening to the fans, lets hope they do it for more than just some alleged abuse which occurred on the field

I agree to a point, although if it wasn't reported by a match official or a player then it brings up a dodgy precedent for the RFL.

It almost means they're going to have to go through every minute of every TV game and re-officiate the game to a degree. They're going to have to lip read every player seen to be speaking and any offence missed by the officials will have to be investigated. Because whilst language that Hardaker has been found to use in the past (v Warrington) is a step above swearing, foul and abusive language is also against the rules in RL. So anyone found to swear on an RL pitch needs to be disciplined. And that would surely extend to club officials too. I can recall seeing Shaun Wane appear to swear during a game.

That in turn brings a dilemma for clubs. Does a club actually want to be shown on live TV?

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:00 pm  

http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23751.php#.VAcfI6NZiKU Lip readers and Gal !

http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23751.php#.VAcfI6NZiKU Lip readers and Gal !

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:05 pm  

Quite right to highlight the incompetent decision by the RFL to highlight to the press that this was being investigated, which will look even more negligent if/when there proves to be no case to answer. Time and again, I've seen primary school kids with more idea of media management than that shower.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:08 pm  

Him wrote:

I agree to a point, although if it wasn't reported by a match official or a player then it brings up a dodgy precedent for the RFL.

It almost means they're going to have to go through every minute of every TV game and re-officiate the game to a degree. They're going to have to lip read every player seen to be speaking and any offence missed by the officials will have to be investigated. Because whilst language that Hardaker has been found to use in the past (v Warrington) is a step above swearing, foul and abusive language is also against the rules in RL. So anyone found to swear on an RL pitch needs to be disciplined. And that would surely extend to club officials too. I can recall seeing Shaun Wane appear to swear during a game.

That in turn brings a dilemma for clubs. Does a club actually want to be shown on live TV?

I agree 100%. As I've said didn't Bateman blow JP a kiss and give him plenty of verbal this season? Swearing is picked up on the ref mike constantly, if that is deemed derogatory to anyone then sanctions should be taken, sexism and other prejudices are just as serious as homophobia. Any C-bomb T-bomb F-bomb should see 5 to 8 game bans, what about all the children born out of wedlock, should they be persicuted. Or are the RFL ok with offending women and children but not gay people.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:10 pm  

Excellent response from GH and it's the referee and the RFL who have as much explaining to do as Zak.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:16 pm  

So nothing reported to the match commissioner by the Ref post match I'd say that pretty much proves this has come as an "after thought" due to the faux outcry online and elsewhere!

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:19 pm  

The Magic Rat wrote:

Excellent response from GH and it's the referee and the RFL who have as much explaining to do as Zak.

If these goes any further can see Leeds going to high court. And can see a vote if no confidence in RFL or a breakaway. It's that serious. The fact that the club has used the words witch hunt says it all.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:19 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/23751.php#.VAcfI6NZiKU

Lip readers and Gal !

24 hours is far too long. That should have being issued yesterday. However, a very good a clear response from the club.

I do hope, with all this information to hand, that IF nothing is proven, that Silverwood is himself the subject of an investigation. There does appear, as it has happened too many times now, an issue with Silverwood and Leeds Rhinos.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:20 pm  

Good to see the club responding and getting behind Zak http://www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/23751.php Integrity issues for silverwood. No report of any comments post match then suddenly puts them in. Also again if he heard something you have to question why it wasn't delt with at the time

Good to see the club responding and getting behind Zak http://www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/23751.php Integrity issues for silverwood. No report of any comments post match then suddenly puts them in. Also again if he heard something you have to question why it wasn't delt with at the time