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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:50 pm  
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Surely they're tripping over their own feet.

I mean riddle me this....

IF the referee says he heard it, then why is a lip reader needed at all?


Exacally lots of questions if he is found guilty cannot see us accepting it.

After the game there was no mention in the refs report, then a social media witch hunt begins and it suddenly appears in his report.

If he did hear it why no action on field he didn't even speak to hardaker about it

If he heard it why do they need a lip reader to be employed.

I wonder what the criteria is to "charge"
On the balance of probability or beyond all resonable doubt?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:56 pm  
I thought the whole uproar about this subject was upsetting people who are offended by the comment. If NOBODY but the ref (and they interviewed Saints player who said he heard nothing), heard anything, and even the ref is saying he doesn't know exactly, hence the appointment of a lip reader. Who exactly is offended by these comments to warrant any action by the RFL?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:00 pm  
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24 hours is far too long. That should have being issued yesterday. However, a very good a clear response from the club.

I do hope, with all this information to hand, that IF nothing is proven, that Silverwood is himself the subject of an investigation. There does appear, as it has happened too many times now, an issue with Silverwood and Leeds Rhinos.


No problem with the statement being "24 hours late". Perhaps Leeds wanted to carefully work out the facts of things before issuing a media release, unlike the RFL.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:02 pm  
Gary Hetherington is now having trial by social media too
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:13 pm  
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FB I honestly don't buy this "corrupt" stuff simply because there are too many idiots not fit for purpose involved at Red Hall to even attempt to be "Corrupt"!
For years many of their structures & procedures have been questioned especially around their officials & Disciplinary structures and routines.
I do however think they are inept and whatever the outcome I'd like to see a full review of their operation from top to bottom in the off season.



Its easy to think they are corrupt of have an agenda For the most part its simply rank incompetence at Red Hall. They hold back our sport to an astonishing degree, I really think its time for the SL clubs for the good of the game to think about a break away organisation like the top football clubs did. Darts suffered form rank incompetence holding their game back and was run by old farts in suits, The player took matters in their own hands and formed the PDC. Rugby league has reached that tipping point. Will anyone be surprised if Hardaker announces at the end of the season that hes had enough and is off to a professional competition like the NRL or even the RFU. He probably wouldnt be the last either.

Silverwoods position is untenable. He has either neglected to report the most important indiscretion during the course of the match to the match commisioner (and failed to act at the time) or he has made something up after the report was completed. The original referees report must be released to the public. He has also suggested he heard the offending remark. If thats the case why are the RFL bringing in a lip reader? Dont they believe or trust the integrity of their own match official or is the reality that he didnt hear anything, has altered and added to his report and has been called out on this lie by Leeds? If this proves to be the case be must be sacked any authority or integrity will be gone, Period.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:15 pm  
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Gary Hetherington is now having trial by social media too


I'm loving the Wigan RL Fans account that's @ing the Met Police in all of their tweets about Hardaker. There's going to be some confused coppers in London.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:19 pm  
Can anyone remember what Richard Silverwood did off the field at a Huddersfield/Leeds game a couple of years back? Don't think anyone needed lip readers for that.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:21 pm  
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Can anyone remember what Richard Silverwood did off the field at a Huddersfield/Leeds game a couple of years back? Don't think anyone needed lip readers for that.



Just seen he is the appointed video ref for Friday. He really should be stood down to elsewhere, that is not right at all.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:24 pm  
@SilversRef - I'd love to comment but I can't.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:25 pm  
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I'm loving the Wigan RL Fans account that's @ing the Met Police in all of their tweets about Hardaker. There's going to be some confused coppers in London.

They are also doing it on totalrlfansforum all these people would be all lining up to sign him and Gary has now got them all in a quandary
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