[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Where do we go from here : Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:01 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Correct, the club and fans should be grateful for Caddick and GH for rescuing them when the club was in a desperate situation. Unfortunately GH has to accept this unfolding disaster has occurred mostly under his watch. Can’t blame Caddick he has his hands full running his large and highly successful business. When you look at the quality in the side Christopher has highlighted and compare with recent sides, it shows just how much we have fallen by the wayside. Sadly we don’t seem to have any players in the squad who can get a grip of the situation. In the past Sinfield and Peacock would sort things out on the pitch. Depressingly the squad is so poor it won’t be a quick fix up it could take several years.

The scary thing is he was hands on running the RU side of things too by all accounts.

Didnt Caddick want to pump money in to the Yawnion etc and Gawwy said he could do better on a shoestring budget?
Because that worked out.

Re: Where do we go from here : Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:30 pm  

Gary Hethrington will NOT spend money full STOP! It just won't happen.

Re: Where do we go from here : Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:52 pm  

Turns out Sam Burgess was on the market as a head coach. It might turn out to haunt me but I would rather stick with RS…. I think

Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:18 am  

Burgess is there to kick booty - Long to do the coaching. The playing side at Warrington needs a shake up and the player power needs a resolution.

That would not be appropriate at Leeds - Leeds needs better recruitment, better youth system and better coaching.

Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:47 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Burgess is there to kick booty - Long to do the coaching. The playing side at Warrington needs a shake up and the player power needs a resolution.

That would not be appropriate at Leeds - Leeds needs better recruitment, better youth system and better coaching.

All correct, absolute credit to Warrington they have taken a massive gamble. Personally I think it will be successful, as you rightly remark Burgess will be kicking backsides . He might start with the fullback who seems to go walk about whenever Catalan chipped the ball through.

Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:10 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

All correct, absolute credit to Warrington they have taken a massive gamble. Personally I think it will be successful, as you rightly remark Burgess will be kicking backsides . He might start with the fullback who seems to go walk about whenever Catalan chipped the ball through.

Dufty, unlikely he would survive a regime of that nature. We have had some bad signings but he is as bad as it comes. A rude awakening for some of the players - the likes of Currie and Ratchford who have been cruising for years - stealing a wage - will see a FIFO culture - let's see if they can adapt.

Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:03 am  

I think burgess might do OK especially if he gets the right team around him. What he will have is the respect of players and especially the NRL ones. I suspect that there will be more significant NRL current players willing to take a phone call and discuss a contract offer with Sam Burgess than answer the phone to Gary!
It's a risk but no bigger than the one Leeds have taken with RS.

Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:31 pm  

Its a shame Dufty seems to have come over for a mess about. He can be a really exciting player, which SL is short of.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Where do we go from here : Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:35 am  

Ive not seen a player look so disinterested for quite a while.

He just does not want to be here at all.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:11 am  

Barrie’s Glass Eye wrote:

I am finding the whole thing with Smith a bit conflicting now, for one main reason. He’s clearly a good ‘coach.’ It seems to me a lot of individuals in the squad, especially the younger end have improved under him. The likes of Walters, Holroyd, McDonnell, O’Conner, Johnson and even Roberts, who looked nowhere near first team level to start the year have all improved as individuals.

What I’m maybe starting to question is whether he’s ‘head coach’ material, certainly with the current level of support. He just can’t seem to pull us together as a team consistently. Yes some of that’s also falls on the inconsistent individuals we have in the squad.

I actually think he could do with a really strong second in command with some head coach experience.

At last someone speaking some sense. Smith is not knowledgable enough or experienced enough to drive a team but he is good with individuals. I would bet you a £ to a dead rat that next year Warrington will turn things around under Burgess because he will earn players respect. Leeds need someone coaching who can demonstrate they know rugby league.
Smith lives under the shadow of his families reputation.