Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:48 am  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Credibility and good judgement and not words that combine easily with Gotcha

I'll take that, considering the description of you.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:52 am  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Credibility and good judgement and not words that combine easily with Gotcha

Those that resort to personal insults and/or attempted denigration always lose the argument IMO.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:57 am  

Just glad I am not a season ticket holder.

Leeds are likely to beat Warrington next week......despite any coaching deficiences the team will want this badly enough to bust a gut. Time is running out for them to add this string to their bow.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:06 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

Just glad I am not a season ticket holder.

Leeds are likely to beat Warrington next week......despite any coaching deficiences the team will want this badly enough to bust a gut. Time is running out for them to add this string to their bow.

They can want it as badly as they have ever wanted a game before, but personally I don't think we have it in us anymore with this team, to win a must win game against Warrington or Wigan. I was never bothered about winning this or the final, as I don't have interest in the CC, but now we really need this to change the mood around this club. As messing this up, I don't think they will get themselves back mentally for the more important GF run in.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:16 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

They can want it as badly as they have ever wanted a game before, but personally I don't think we have it in us anymore with this team, to win a must win game against Warrington or Wigan. I was never bothered about winning this or the final, as I don't have interest in the CC, but now we really need this to change the mood around this club. As messing this up, I don't think they will get themselves back mentally for the more important GF run in.

You can forget the GF....IMO all the remaining petrol in the tank is being saved for the CC. Win the CC and the season will peter out....lose and there will be more effort.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:16 pm  

The worrying thing about the attitude was that it was the some of so called senior players whose attitude stunk, led by Danny McGuire as captain, he hasn't got a ounce of leadership material in his body.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:23 pm  

Fieldheadrhino wrote:

The worrying thing about the attitude was that it was the some of so called senior players whose attitude stunk, led by Danny McGuire as captain, he hasn't got a ounce of leadership material in his body.

...and yet our esteemed coach continues to see much more in him than most others. McGuire is unfortunately fast becoming the new Kirke: what exactly does the coach see to warrant selection?

Too many are being selected now on past reputation and the basis of what they might do rather than what they can do

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:19 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Here we go again. Harking back to the past.

I knew someone would completely miss the point and you didn't disappoint.

It's not a 'harking' back trying to say "oh we'll be ok on the day" like we've done before. It was to highlight how placing too much emphasis on the game before a big cup/playoff game is as history tells us (in more sports than just RL, with football being a big one also) can be often inaccurate and not key to how things will go.

I'm not saying Leeds will turn up and do the business on Saturday, we may well even get beat quite comfortably (do you and some of the others feel better now for hearing that?). However, I seriously doubt that if we do lose on Saturday it's because we didn't pick up a 'confidence' boosting win over Bradford.

Would it make some more comfortable if I also use the comparison of Leeds playing very well at Wigan on the last league game on 2013 but then struggling in the playoffs? Or Warrington getting 60+ points put past them by London the week before the CC Final but still beating Leeds at Wembley?

Happier now pessimists???

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:20 pm  

Superted wrote:

What's arrogant or juvenile about being able to identify when the team have entered a game with the wrong mindset? Or are you saying the team didn't turn up with the wrong mindset? If so, I'd like to know what evidence you saw on Friday of a team putting their all in and mentally prepared for a battle. Or, is it that we're not supposed to talk about any poor performance/attitude from our team?

As for there being another team on the park, as I said earlier, despite Leeds poor attitude, they still weren't played off the park, although Bradford certainly wanted and deserved the win more on the night. However, Leeds turning up with the attitude they did to that game wasn't brought about because of how Bradford played on the night - as I've said earlier, it was evident right from the off.

I am interested in how you go about gathering evidence on some ones "attittude".

Do I believe the team prepared for the game. YES

Do I believe they were possibley distracted by next weeks Semi. YES

Do I believe the some players lacked motivation against Bradford. YES

Do I believe that its perhaps difficult or not even desirable to maintain a high level of concentration over an extended period. YES

Do I believe we will win when it actually matters. YES

I believe nothing I read and only half of what I see.

Re: Attitude : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:34 pm  

We will win the semi and then we can all celebrate together and hug.