Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:02 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Brisbane Rhino ,

Why is the re-signing of Kirk strange , he is a consistently good performer and has been for a number of years despite pathetic ramblings of some on here and certainly in a salary capped era represents good value for the wage he is on .

Do we know what wages players are on? would be interesting and I would be in favour of the same system they have in Ice Hockey where we can all see the the wages for players in relation to the salary Cap, mind you that Salary cap is currently close to $60m a year

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:06 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Brisbane Rhino ,

Why is the re-signing of Kirk strange , he is a consistently good performer and has been for a number of years despite pathetic ramblings of some on here and certainly in a salary capped era represents good value for the wage he is on .

No he isn't and now at 32 it's time to intergrate the younger forwards at the club especially as we've re-signed JP and Kylie and have increased the Chances of needing 2 front-line Props at once.
As for pathetic ramblings you're not watching the games properly for a 1st choice forward of his size and experience he's no better than Moore or Singleton and if it means keeping Singleton and even youngsters like Baldwinson ,Tonks and Mulhern id let Kirke go.
There comes a time when EVERY player has to either be moved on or the player himself makes taht call his wage whatever the figure would be better spent extending the youngsters deals now that's an opinion made on watching Kirke since he signed and most of the U19's games its not a pathetic rambling its an opinion built up from actually seeing the games and players involved nothing personal.
Also re-value for money how do you know what £££ he costs he's a 1st choice 17 player so won't be on buttons either.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:21 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Brisbane Rhino ,

Why is the re-signing of Kirk strange , he is a consistently good performer and has been for a number of years despite pathetic ramblings of some on here and certainly in a salary capped era represents good value for the wage he is on .

In the immortalised words of John McEnroe....you can not be serious?

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:27 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

The problem is that these "hard decisions" aren't being taken, and haven't been for the last couple of years.

Instead of building from a strong position, the CEO is content to wait until the wheels come off before trying to fix the wagon.

??

What stronger position is there to build from than twice champions?

What better environment to blood the next generation of players?

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:38 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Brisbane Rhino ,

Why is the re-signing of Kirk strange , he is a consistently good performer and has been for a number of years despite pathetic ramblings of some on here and certainly in a salary capped era represents good value for the wage he is on .

A a first team player at leeds for 8 seasons now how much money do you think he is on? More than Singleton?

I asked if kirke would step up in the absence of Peacock. In the Hull game he made 7 carries. In the Wigan game he made 3 carries. In the Saints game he made 5 carries. I think the question has been answered.

He's a powder puff player who is scared of the ball. It is, frankly, criminal that successive coaches have accepted such a cowardly offensive work rate from a forward on such a consistent basis.

It depresses me greatly that I will have to watch the big cowardly lion hopefully share in the succeses earned by his hard working team mates for the next two years.

At least Singleton appears to show some appetite for the ball.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:08 pm  

Well, according to the Bulls board (yes, I know) Kirke might be on more than people think. viewtopic.php?f=19&t=551693&tsmp=1370434016

Well, according to the Bulls board (yes, I know) Kirke might be on more than people think. viewtopic.php?f=19&t=551693&tsmp=1370434016

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:12 pm  

G1 wrote:

A a first team player at leeds for 8 seasons now how much money do you think he is on? More than Singleton?

I asked if kirke would step up in the absence of Peacock. In the Hull game he made 7 carries. In the Wigan game he made 3 carries. In the Saints game he made 5 carries. I think the question has been answered.

He's a powder puff player who is scared of the ball. It is, frankly, criminal that successive coaches have accepted such a cowardly offensive work rate from a forward on such a consistent basis.

It depresses me greatly that I will have to watch the big cowardly lion hopefully share in the succeses earned by his hard working team mates for the next two years.

At least Singleton appears to show some appetite for the ball.

I refer you to the thoughts of this wise gentleman

G1 wrote:

That person remains in charge today and remains in charge of the transition going forward. Why anybody on here would think they know better than he what the squad needs in the next few years is beyond me.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:05 pm  

G1 wrote:

??

What stronger position is there to build from than twice champions?

What better environment to blood the next generation of players?

And that "building from strength" has constituted a failure to replace Buderus, despite the CEO's promises.

Constant contract renewals for players in decline.

A failure to integrate the next generation of players, other than when forced to by injuries.

The ship has sailed on building from strength. Given the current contractual commitments the club has, the best that can be expected is papering over the growing cracks.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:47 pm  

Gary Hetherington wrote:

All our players are dual-registered with Hunslet, but equally all Hunslet’s players are dual-registered with us. It may be Hunslet have got a player who could fit the bill for us. We have no plans to go outside our academy or the arrangement with Hunslet.

Hunslet could be coming to Leeds' rescue. Phew, that's a relief. Should allay the concerns of anyone thinking the 2013 Leeds squad - far from being the best yet assembled - is barely adequate.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:18 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

I refer you to the thoughts of this wise gentleman

I know, I know. And he was right (as well has handsome). Still have to vent my spleen at a forward who takes the ball up on average 4 times a game whilst accepting that somebody, somewhere knows better than I. Nobody on here does mind.