Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:51 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?

People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.

The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.

If hardaker gets banned I will never attend an RL game ever again, this whole thing stinks. The game deserves to die after the RFL handling of this and the vile attitude of so called fans.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:56 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?

People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.

The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.

If hardaker is banned I will desert the game completley.

The governing body of this sport is a complete disgrace.

Don't think hardaker will be in this sport much longer, not in this country at least. No one should have to put up with this crap. He could earn a packet in union, or enjoy better weather and more money down under.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:59 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

If hardaker gets banned I will never attend an RL game ever again, this whole thing stinks. The game deserves to die after the RFL handling of this and the vile attitude of so called fans.

FlexWheeler wrote:

If hardaker is banned I will desert the game completley.

The governing body of this sport is a complete disgrace.

I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.

However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:00 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.

However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?

Because of how it's all come about. I had no issue with the ban before.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:02 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?

People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.

The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.

That's the problem now though as a guilty verdict is seriously flawed.

The tv clip/lip reading was never going to be concrete enough for them to ban him. And the RFL won't want to be accused of condoning homophobic abuse so it's in their best interests to find him guilty.

So to add weight to their case an admission several days later that their employee Silverwood heard something after all.

The ear-witness is firstly, employed by the 'prosecuting party' and he's also performed a bit of a U-turn which compromises his evidence massively IMO.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:04 pm  

If Hardaker is banned again... I'll...

If Hardaker is banned again... I'll...

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:06 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?

People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.

The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.

I answered this already. If he is found guilty by some fair and reasonable process then I would not have a problem with a ban.

I do have a problem with his guilt being presumed, albeit by a baying twitter mob of the clueless, and I have a big problem with the RFL naming him without any charge. That is wrong. To follow that up with a prissy statement about not commenting on the investigation is just ridiculous. Horse. Bolted. Stable door.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:08 pm  

If he is banned I will show my booty in The Viaduct

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:10 pm  

William Eve wrote: If Hardaker is banned again... I'll... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tyq95BnG4z8

William Eve wrote: If Hardaker is banned again... I'll... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tyq95BnG4z8

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:13 pm  

Can't argue with any of that.

In all of this I do feel a bit sorry for Hardaker I must admit. He's a fantastic player, the best full back in England and pushing Tomkins very close too.

I don't believe for one minute he is a homophobe, he has simply had one or two "brain-farts" that may end up landing him in hot water. It's unfortunate and the whole situation is looking quite messy at the moment.