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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:48 pm  
If he's being investigated for calling Flanagan a puff then whether he's found guilty or not of that he should surely be investigated for using the F word shouldn't he?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:50 pm  
ThePrinter wrote:
Well there you go right there :)

Either way now due to the cack handed dealing of it neither result is going to convince many to change their original opinion.

Even if it's a not guilty verdict I admit that doesn't 100% prove that he didn't say it.


And I don't mind admitting that a guilty verdict doesn't prove he did say it either.

Unfortunately the RFL are in a dangerous position now in that they've set a precedent and I can't see them backtracking now they've said they are investigating.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:50 pm  
tad rhino wrote:
couldn't agree more. brough called bentham a f*cking cheating w*nker during a sky game this year. everybody watching heard it. the RFL ignored it, apart from a few posts fans ignored it.
that was far worse than calling someone a puff!

What planet do you reside on Tad?

Do you seriously believe calling someone an effin cheating w****r is worse than homophobic abuse?

I'm not aware of any groups of people in the real world who suffer from discriminatory practices as a result of being classed as f*****s, cheats or w*****s or a combination of all three. Homosexuals OTOH do suffer from discrimination on a regular basis.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:51 pm  
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Again you are trying to make me out to be something I'm not, your track record really coming through here.

We're talking about the word "puff", don't try and introduce a different element to the argument... then try and tar me with said element.

Not tarring you at all

Lets stick to the word supposedly used.

If true its wrong, and if it is true, not only wrong its his second time.

So if true a ban should be least of his worries.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:53 pm  
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What planet do you reside on Tad?

Do you seriously believe calling someone an effin cheating w****r is worse than homophobic abuse?

I'm not aware of any groups of people in the real world who suffer from discriminatory practices as a result of being classed as f*****s, cheats or w*****s or a combination of all three. Homosexuals OTOH do suffer from discrimination on a regular basis.


I agree that a high percentage of homosexuals suffer, at some point, from discriminatory abuse but not really by the word "puff".
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:54 pm  
The Yellow Giraffe wrote:
I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.

However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?



The point is more whether anyone was offended by what he said. If they were and he said what they thought, then a ban is the only course of action.

Even if he had said it and no one offended, then again it is poor handling from the game, to take further.

However, here what we have is no players heard it, you can't see or hear it on television this time (unlike at Warrington), and the only person who says he heard something( although he is not sure) is the ref, who actually didn't mention it until there was a campaign through social media to do so.

That is the main problems here.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:56 pm  
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I'm not aware of any groups of people in the real world who suffer from discriminatory practices as a result of being classed as f*****s, cheats or w*****s or a combination of all three. Homosexuals OTOH do suffer from discrimination on a regular basis.



I know a few wan***s who suffer discrimination. They enjoy their actions yet are persecuted if they enjoy themselves in public. Bang out of order if you ask me.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:19 pm  
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I know a few wan***s who suffer discrimination. They enjoy their actions yet are persecuted if they enjoy themselves in public. Bang out of order if you ask me.


I've never felt discriminated to be honest, you can beat an egg.....
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:20 pm  
Not thought about it before, but just seen mentioned elsewhere.

IF Silverwood really did see or hear anything then surely it would be on his ref cam recording. If not, then surely this shows him up for the liar it now appears he is.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:23 pm  
Gotcha wrote:
Not thought about it before, but just seen mentioned elsewhere.

IF Silverwood really did see or hear anything then surely it would be on his ref cam recording. If not, then surely this shows him up for the liar it now appears he is.


Isn't the ref cam just a camera? He was wearing a microphone, but one set up to hear him, not necessarily to pick up what happens in the background.

I think that might be a bit of a red herring.
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