Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:00 am  

tenerifeRhino wrote:

But I'm sure he would have been fine staying in the UK if no NRL club were sniffing around.

If he wants to leave, you put a transfer request in and play for us until a suitable fee or replacement can be found. You don't act like a teenager and just don't turn up for work.

Not for a minute saying you're wrong, either factually or morally. What I am saying is that it's not relevant to the outcome. Leeds can bang on about a £250k fee all they like but there's no way on god's earth they'll get it, or anywhere near it. And they know this. IMO of course.

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:39 am  

tenerifeRhino wrote:

But I'm sure he would have been fine staying in the UK if no NRL club were sniffing around.

If he wants to leave, you put a transfer request in and play for us until a suitable fee or replacement can be found. You don't act like a teenager and just don't turn up for work.

Worked for Joel Moon when he engineered his move to Leeds

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:44 am  

Do we then try and re-open dialogue with c*s with regards to Adam Milner?

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:57 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Personally, I don't want a player dragged back who doesn't find it an honour to play for our great club..he can rot for me now, i just think the whole breach of contract in this way needs addressing.

Tbf though it should be pointed out that he was nothing but complementary about the club in his interview. How many of our squad wouldn't want to go play for the reigning NRL champions if they had the chance?

Remember Stevie Ward asked to go to Australia in 2014 and Jordan Baldwinson criticised the clubs offer to him and went off to New Zealand only to come crawling back when it didn't work at for him and I don't see people having issues with them. Granted the way Segeyaro has gone about it, potentially guided by his agent and others is very poor but has been mentioned he'd happily come back if he didn't have the Cronulla offer so it's not an out and out issue with our club. He didn't want to come over in July really but it didn't stop people making up chants for him or taking up issue with him playing then.

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:05 pm  

Cas have a very promising young hooker called jacques O'Neill and may be looking to start bringing him through which might help make this possible. I have never taken much notice of Milner so not sure how good he is.

As well as a tackler, we need someone to add a bit in attack , Lunt could do a job but not sure GH goes back for people who have said no in past because of coin.

Options look fairly thin. I worry metal Mickey comes home from Wigan with an empty tank.

Legal threat is just start of negotiation for his exit. We will badly miss his quality imo.

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:10 pm  

lunt said yes, for some reason paul anderson wanted him out then changed his mind at the last minute.

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:18 pm  

I agree that we should ask a fee for him but the liklihood is we wont get anywhere near the £250,000 likewise we wont get the £300,000 we wanted for Zak either.
What we do need is someone to take his place and that person needs to be of a similar quality otherwise we go down the long list of excuses why we didn`t make the top 8 again.
No floods, no SPOTY, no game against the Kiwis or a WCC match to hide behind but we can say we had no recognised hooker.
What if we go and sign a top class replacement not sure where but we do.
Then Segeyaro decides he wants to come back and play for us.
We can no longer fit him under the cap yet his contract is in tact.
Can he do us for breach of contract?

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:21 pm  

Please someone correct me if I am wrong:

We tried to offload Hardaker and ended up loaning him out till end of last season

We get Segeyaro on same terms

Segeyaro goes well enough to earn three year contract

Hardaker returns from loan remains on our books and go to Cas on a season long loan with option to buy at pre-determined price.

Segeyaro decides he wants out of his contrasct and stays in Australia.

So in effect we tried to get rid of one troublesome asset and ended up with two players who won't play for Leeds this season and we have trouble selling? Fantastic bit of business there!

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:27 pm  

GH always states before he signs a player he looks into if is right for the club not just ability ,how will he fit in and settle? etc and more or less this has worked .He's obviously had an offer from a certain club which far exceeds what he will be getting at Leeds .Leeds have made the first shots across the bough and they still need a hooker

Re: James Segeyaro : Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:06 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

lunt said yes, for some reason paul anderson wanted him out then changed his mind at the last minute.

Could be wrong but wasn't it Nathan Brown who wanted rid? He then ended up being retained by Anderson when he took over at hudds.