Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:46 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

To be fair, as good as some of the players in that team were, our record without Harris in that period was dreadful, as close to a one man team as you will see.

Fair point - he was a pivotal player in the way Murray set his side up. That move from FB to half mid-way through the game was significant.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:44 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

To be fair, as good as some of the players in that team were, our record without Harris in that period was dreadful, as close to a one man team as you will see.

Harris was a once in a lifetime player. Probably the bests I’ve seen, along with Tomkins.
However was some real quality around him, and definitely not a one man team. The current squad is 10x worse . Huge job..!

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:07 am  

Imagine being a one man team and it not being Adrian Morley lol.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:11 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Imagine being a one man team and it not being Adrian Morley lol.

Ha. Exactly ! Could name a few more too….

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:29 am  

Shabino wrote:

Harris was a once in a lifetime player. Probably the bests I’ve seen, along with Tomkins.
However was some real quality around him, and definitely not a one man team. The current squad is 10x worse . Huge job..!

The thing is the squad Murray took over wasn't considered that great at the time. Yes in retrospect the pack was brutal but... Fleary, Tony Farrell, Andy Hay, Ryan Sheridan - there were a lot of players contemporarily considered journeymen right up until Murray got his hands on them. That's the sort of impact which it'd be a dream for a new coach to have.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:27 pm  

The most frustrating thing about this is that this failure hasn't just started this season, it's been on going for years. The club for years has hidden behind mediocrity and steadying the ship, pretending that it's progress towards competing again. The fact we went into another season with a stop gap manager like Agar just shows where our ambition is, and it's fighting relegation.

I really struggle to see why we would trust the men who have got us into this situation, to get us out of it. The signings and managerial appointments have been consistently terrible for years now. The overhaul that is needed is humongous, and that's because of terrible leadership at the top. I don't trust them.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:55 pm  

GH is not the talent spotter he was he ought to retire but no way ever will he he is too busy using the rhinos to prosper himself his family and friends.
This is the crux of the matter no way will he bring an influential manager in to point out the problem.
(Like Furner did)
GH has been immense for Leeds and I for one am eternally grateful but let’s now let someone else take total charge and focus on the rugby not the corporate.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:26 pm  

Lewis Dodd out for the season. Pundits acting as though it’s end of the world. We’ve pretty much picked up long term injuries every week for the past 3 years!
Achilles and bad. Wish the lad all the best though as special talent…..

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:31 pm  

Chesterrhino wrote:

GH is not the talent spotter he was he ought to retire but no way ever will he he is too busy using the rhinos to prosper himself his family and friends.

People just chuck this BS around like they have a clue what's going on.

Re: 2022 | Head Coach talk : Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:34 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

People just chuck this BS around like they have a clue what's going on.

were such as cuthbo kylie delaney spotted ? it's the obvious big signings we no longer get stopped with buderus after webb, jp , ellis