Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:25 am  

Him wrote:

McDermott said: “Credit to Hull KR, they didn’t let us play.

“I didn’t think we played all night. I didn’t think we looked in the game for the majority of it, it was only the final stages when we decided to be a bit more attacking and wake up.

“I’d give Hull KR a lot of credit, right from the off they had some intent defensively and shut down pretty much everything we tried.”

McDermott refused to blame Rhinos’ lengthy injury list or any controversial decisions for Rhinos’ defeat.

“There was enough good people on the field to be able to win that game,” he stressed.

“I don’t think we had enough intent or energy for the first 65 minutes, which is what we will look at.

“There were some positives, it’s not the poorest performance I’ve seen, but it just lacked energy."

This, to me, says it all.

He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".

Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.

But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:40 am  

a year with no cup finals would put pressure on him from a money point of view

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:00 pm  

Mr Scruff wrote:

This, to me, says it all.

He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".

Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.

But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.

Fully agree with you. I've been saying the same thing, but the stock response is 2 GF's on the bounce. For the players we have, we're proportionately one if the worst attacking teams. Some times I wonder what they work on in the week because our attack rarely looks fluid with people hitting the ball at the right time

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:38 pm  

Mr Scruff wrote:

This, to me, says it all.

He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".

Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.

But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.

I don't think it says that. I think he was mainly right and it backs up what most people said on here post game. We were lethargic for 65 mins then looked dangerous.
I wouldn't class that as "being out-coached" since I didn't see anything exceptional from Hull KR or anything exceptionally lacking from us tactically.

You say it yourself - "flat, predictable, tired performances".

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:00 pm  

D4mo78 wrote:

Fully agree with you. I've been saying the same thing, but the stock response is 2 GF's on the bounce. For the players we have, we're proportionately one if the worst attacking teams. Some times I wonder what they work on in the week because our attack rarely looks fluid with people hitting the ball at the right time

On paper I still think we have one of the best teams in the league, not 4th or 5th.

There's not enough depth to our attacking line. Too often poeple coming onto the ball are too flat, meaning there's no momentum which makes it easy for the defenders. There's also too many times when passes go to people who don't expect it meaning they start from a stand still and have to work out what on earth to do with the ball.

If these aren't the responsibility of the coaching team to iron out I don't know what is.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:06 pm  

Him wrote:

I don't think it says that. I think he was mainly right and it backs up what most people said on here post game. We were lethargic for 65 mins then looked dangerous.
I wouldn't class that as "being out-coached" since I didn't see anything exceptional from Hull KR or anything exceptionally lacking from us tactically.

You say it yourself - "flat, predictable, tired performances".

We only looked dangerous when the game was pretty much gone and Hull KR had knackered themselves outplaying us.

He was out-coached though. He even said himself that pretty much everything he tried was shut down by Hull KR - because McDermott has no plan B and is therefore very predictable. Meanwhile HUll KR's best player in my opinion was Michael Dobson, an obvious danger player who was allowed to run the game for his side.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:19 pm  

Mr Scruff wrote:

But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.

Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.

The covering his ass bit meaning he is towing the club line, and as captain, supporting the clubs decisions. Hence why he has done it for each coach appointed he has played under.

Edit: The last sentence was for this unable to think outside of a few words, and hence ensure no avoidance of doubt.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:00 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.

Let's remind ourselves again shall we? From the Guardian 29/9/12:

"He's the best coach I've had," said Sinfield, who twice lifted the Super League trophy under Tony Smith, now the coach of Warrington. "His mix of man-management and his game plan is second to none. Since Brian Mac has been in charge, we've been in every final so far. I love playing for him. I can't praise him enough, I've so much respect for him and I hope he's here for a very long time.

Sinfield must have a giant ass.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:56 pm  

Fetlar wrote:

Let's remind ourselves again shall we? From the Guardian 29/9/12:

Sinfield must have a giant ass.

Why did we need to remind ourselves. Like I said Sinfield has repeated the same thing for each coach since Murray.

His ass won't be as big as McDermotts, not when you include you hanging out of it at every second.

You need to give it a rest with the defend at all costs and wake up a bit.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:10 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.

To be fair mate I remember Sinfield saying he enjoyed playing for previous coaches but I can't ever recall him saying they were the best he's ever worked with.

What he said about McDermott goes way beyond covering his ass.