Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:58 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

This was inevitable with a loss on Friday.

My issue is I simply dont trust the people making the decision on a replacement to get this decision right which tells me the issue isnt just the Head Coach position. This decision is a massive one for the future of the club. Massive.

Having watched the press conferences GH seems to be hinting at JJB quite a lot. I really hope Im reading too much into that.

You look at the coaching odds and there arent many there that fill me with excitement at all.

What a hole we are in. Cant believe it.

There is talent in that squad but no leadership, no discipline and no heart but it is a far better team than it has shown, far better. The head coach deserved criticism, the players deserve more and the CEO has to take his share too.

Three or 4 years ago the club appointed Sinfield, Furner and Agar to key roles and all 3 have now left the club.

Fair play to Agar for holding his hands up and admitting what he was doing wasnt good enough for Leeds RL maybe others should do the same and maybe some players should also accept their part in this. Half of them never seem to speak.

Its a sad day for the club but also an opportunity to review and improve. Lets hope we get this appointment right but as I say I dont trust the people making that call anymore.

100% agree listened to short interview with JJB on 5live this morning and he was indicating interested in job full time. All it will take is a slight upturn in results finish say 5th and nothing will change other than Agar might return in the DOR role. I really do believe that Hetherington is out of touch these days and we clearly need a new coach backed by his own team with a modern approach.JJB is a good guy but no coaching pedigree he was talking about hard work and pulling together which iwas his DNA as a player but tactical acumen and the abikity to mould a team developing every player is what we need from a coach. Blood sweat and tears should be a given for anybody who pulls on a Leeds shirt.So come on Gary don"t take the easy option take your time and make the right decision!

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:40 am  

Bullseye wrote:

I'd be on the phone to Stephen Kearney and Marc Brentnall at Melbourne Storm. They are the gold standard for how a RL club should be run. Or you could even try for Craig Bellamy who's currently weighing up whether this year will be his last one with them. It's be an enormous coup to get him but it who knows? Probably too expensive though.

Bellamy - there's thought - no way he would toe the line to GH. Sadly it will never happen if it did it would be akin to when Graham Murray arrived - transformational

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:22 pm  

The only thing that will get us back on course is a quality coach.

Not a coach that is well liked or a coach the fans like because he used to play for us. Both are irrelevant, things like "knowing the club" etc are excuses you use to describe a coach that is underqualified. I actively want the coach to have no connection to our club and instead be hired due to his proven quality in coaching. Our club seems to have a really hard time distinguishing between former good players and good coaches. They are not the same.

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:44 pm  

Danny Ward is the favourite to get the job, apparently

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:55 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Edwards has no experience of coaching Rugby League for decades. It was a crazy appointment when Wigan tried it. It'd be even more insane for us now.

We need someone who has coached or assisted at the top level in the modern game.

I would imagine Shaun Edwards would be successful in whatever he does. His career to date shows that.

Ironically, Tony Smith and Brian McDerrmott have both coached at the top level for a number of years and both won silverware. However, reading the posts above, both would not be good enough for Leeds!???

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:08 pm  

tomlufc wrote:

The only thing that will get us back on course is a quality coach.

Not a coach that is well liked or a coach the fans like because he used to play for us. Both are irrelevant, things like "knowing the club" etc are excuses you use to describe a coach that is underqualified. I actively want the coach to have no connection to our club and instead be hired due to his proven quality in coaching. Our club seems to have a really hard time distinguishing between former good players and good coaches. They are not the same.

If you look at the very successful clubs they have a culture that defines them - the coach has to fit into that culture. Saints want to play a certain way and the coach must embrace that. Maguire worked at Wigan he would have never worked at Saints. A top coach should be able to adapt his style to his surroundings if he really wants to get the best out of the opportunity

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:49 pm  

We need a clean break from coaches who have been at the club already in some capacity, all the more so if they are inexperienced or have had limited evidence of past success. Powell and Smith are the only 'options' that might prove to be astute exceptions, but the timing is clearly wrong for both of them - Powell is having limited impact at Wire and we'd probably need to wait to the end of the season for Smith.

McGuire, Ward and JJB would all constitute massive risks not unlike Sinfield coming after McDermott. It doesn't have to be an NRL assistant (certainly not any old assistant who happens to be available) but for me this line of recruitment would do most to signal that lessons of the past are finally being learned. Agar supposedly has good NRL contacts - let's hope he is making up for lost time in putting them to good use!

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:18 pm  

Danny Buderus

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:50 pm  

YosemiteSam wrote:

Aside from the money, as big an issue as that is, he's built a good reputation for himself in Union. Very doubtful that he'd put himself in a position to jeopardise that. The Wigan on/off debacle won't have helped either.

Yes I can see that

Re: 2022 | Richard Agar resigns : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:56 pm  

Rugby Raider wrote:

I would imagine Shaun Edwards would be successful in whatever he does. His career to date shows that.

Seriously, are people really suggesting we should appoint someone who has no practical Rugby League experience for over two decades?? The game has changed massively since he was last involved and so have coaching methods. Being a successful ex Rugby League player in union is hardly a massive achievement given how backward that sport was when he first went there, and to some degree still is from a skills and fitness perspective.

Coming in at Leeds with Walker, JJB and Long as his brains trust - at least in the short term - would be a recipe for disaster.