Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:05 am  

Smudger wrote:

What a pathetic lot some of you are! Currently top of the league, two Grand Final wins since this thread was started and you still keep it going... What the hell do you want?

Face it, you have probably been the best side bar none under Brian Mac and you still want more. Give the bloke a break. Yes, your squad are getting older (sadly that comes to us all) but the likes of Peacock, Burrow, even Sinfield are still top drawer (imo). Your kids are coming through really good and the future probably looks better for Leeds than any other SL team due to the excellent management of Hetherington and Caddick.

Oh my God, I'm doing your job - supporting Leeds - AND I'M A CAS FAN! Get a grip and enjoy the rugby instead of bitching for the sake of it.

Well said Sir.

We have a set of real moaners on this forum who are not typical of the majority of supporters IMO. They arrogantly believe that if Leeds are not beating everybody convincingly each week then it is not right and therefore must be Brian Mac's fault or Hetherington's or both. They do not understand that even top players make mistakes and cannot delivery top form each week and that if they were able to do this each week sport would become utterly boring. I wonder if these same people are so perfect in their own jobs - I do not remember the Pope creating so many new Saints!

After such an entertaining game with excellent opposition instead of acclaiming the positives these oh so critical experts jump in with their blame game. Superleague is in the entertainment business and we got our money's worth on Thursday night mistakes and all.

Your team are to be congratulated and if we cannot win the Championship this year I hope Cas do.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:10 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Considering one view was based on a string of poor performances, and the other was after a string of excellent ones, I can say I have seen enough years of tvocs posts to know he has far more about him, and not dumb enough to think that.

I don't know about that. But he sure has it in for Brian Mac and I wouldn't be suprised if he has a Tony Smith poster on his wall, twitching face and all!

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:58 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

I don't know about that. But he sure has it in for Brian Mac and I wouldn't be suprised if he has a Tony Smith poster on his wall, twitching face and all!

I think he should stick to collecting stats he`s good at that.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:04 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

I don't know about that. But he sure has it in for Brian Mac and I wouldn't be suprised if he has a Tony Smith poster on his wall, twitching face and all!

Maybe he bought the poster from the same store you bought your Brian McDermott poster.....complete with kneeling mat to pay due homage on.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:13 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

I think he should stick to collecting stats he`s good at that.

TVOC is a very knowledgeable and erudite contributer....and noticeable by his absence. He has probably concluded it is not worth the abuse and excessive time he has had to contribute to defend his posts from others that seem desperate to usurp and better him. (The amount of time some have on here to post lengthy diatribes is astonishing.)

Some of those lengthy exchanges were probably largely ignored or not read at all....it certainly was the case with myself.

I for one miss TVOC's posts.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:43 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

TVOC is a very knowledgeable and erudite contributer....and noticeable by his absence. He has probably concluded it is not worth the abuse and excessive time he has had to contribute to defend his posts from others that seem desperate to usurp and better him. (The amount of time some have on here to post lengthy diatribes is astonishing.)

Some of those lengthy exchanges were probably largely ignored or not read at all....it certainly was the case with myself.

I for one miss TVOC's posts.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:02 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

TVOC is a very knowledgeable and erudite contributer....and noticeable by his absence. He has probably concluded it is not worth the abuse and excessive time he has had to contribute to defend his posts from others that seem desperate to usurp and better him. (The amount of time some have on here to post lengthy diatribes is astonishing.)

Some of those lengthy exchanges were probably largely ignored or not read at all....it certainly was the case with myself.

I for one miss TVOC's posts.

More likely he realised how foolish he looked challenging people to leave the board permanently because they didn't share his dislike of McDermott.

That one of his first contributions in quite a while on here was to say McDermott should step down for losing at Wakefield shows that this one time knowledgable poster has become just bitter and negativity fuelled. He makes no bones about not liking McDermott, which is fair enough but it got to the point he couldn't even be reasoned about how the team was doing. Again it's been proven recently (and in the past) when he's pointed the blame of Quins/London plight at McDermott's feet when we all clearly know they're many many more reasons to the story of that clubs woes but he wouldn't hear any of that.

What I continue to find astonishingly laughable is this continued claim/view by some that "they aren't allowed to have an opinion if it's negative and they get attacked by other posters".

This simply isn't true, the whole purpose of this board is for people to talk and debate about rugby and Leeds in particular. When people make a point it's part and parcel that others will discuss/argue/agree with it otherwise what is the point of the board? Does it get heated at times....yes, but I've never seen anybody told they can't have an opinion or tried to be kicked off the board (with the exception of William Eve for his obvious trolling and tvoc's childish 'loser leaves board' challenge to me). There's a big difference between an opinion being challenged and an opinion not being allowed, some are crying wolf that it's the latter when they can't think of a more intelligent comeback argument when their original view is challenged. When one of the negative types post something and people argue the point, the poster says he isn't allowed an opinion. Yet these same posters will argue positive posts and say that these views are simply rose-tinted or question the rugby knowledge and experience of said poster.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:05 am  

Printer - this board needs the likes of TVOC he brings a different way of putting his point across. The sin bin used to be a vibrant board until Mintball tried force her opinion on everyone. Now its dead as posters could not put up with someone's opinion being rammed down their throat on every topic.

There is skill in debate and sometimes you have to accept that a differing opinion has some merit and move on. Nobody is always correct all the time. You on the other hand seem to find it hard to accept that any opinion that differs from yours can be even slightly correct. Unlike TVOC you often use very spurious/superficial facts to justify your opinion.

If you are not careful you will have nobody to argue with and your opinions will be completely discarded by everyone as debating with is too much like hard work for what is a bit of entertainment after all.

Rugby is not life and death it is 26 men running round a field throwing and kicking a ball around

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:10 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

Maybe he bought the poster from the same store you bought your Brian McDermott poster.....complete with kneeling mat to pay due homage on.

Never really paid homage but happy to pay respect.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:01 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Printer - this board needs the likes of TVOC he brings a different way of putting his point across. The sin bin used to be a vibrant board until Mintball tried force her opinion on everyone. Now its dead as posters could not put up with someone's opinion being rammed down their throat on every topic.

There is skill in debate and sometimes you have to accept that a differing opinion has some merit and move on. Nobody is always correct all the time. You on the other hand seem to find it hard to accept that any opinion that differs from yours can be even slightly correct. Unlike TVOC you often use very spurious/superficial facts to justify your opinion.

If you are not careful you will have nobody to argue with and your opinions will be completely discarded by everyone as debating with is too much like hard work for what is a bit of entertainment after all.

Rugby is not life and death it is 26 men running round a field throwing and kicking a ball around

Granted what some of what you say is correct. I know my opinion isn't always 'correct' but perhaps this advice should also be thrown at other posters.....not just the ones with an opposite view to yours.

I have no problem with the posters on here who can criticise in a healthy reasoned way, there is though clearly ones who go way OTT

For all the talk above of posters ramming opinions down people's throats repeatedly, not accepting others opinions (where as I get told to re-watch games or questioned as to having no rugby experience when I offer a different opinion) or being stubborn or hard to debate with.......I can think of some more guilty, but they have a similar view to you so escape your above speech.

Whose's the real one getting told they can't hold an opposing view???