: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:10 pm  

G1 wrote: No its' not, its' because he's black and you and the other idiots are racist. Unless, of course you have any specific incidents of him generally being dirty you'd care to share? You know, examples of red cards or even yellow cards for foul play, that sort of thing. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg thebloodbath wrote: 'the most feared man in Super League' Good lord! Where did you quote that from? Regarding Bailey's rep.... There will always be those who will bring up his stretch inside. And as for this race card, you really are scraping the barrell.

G1 wrote: No its' not, its' because he's black and you and the other idiots are racist. Unless, of course you have any specific incidents of him generally being dirty you'd care to share? You know, examples of red cards or even yellow cards for foul play, that sort of thing. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg thebloodbath wrote: 'the most feared man in Super League' Good lord! Where did you quote that from? Regarding Bailey's rep.... There will always be those who will bring up his stretch inside. And as for this race card, you really are scraping the barrell.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:11 pm  

Game On wrote:

He plays it hard. And by what Bloodbath says always has. Wish Bradford had him to be honest. His run and then around to Graham should prove something to the doubters. Plus he upsets the opposition forwards from their game plan. Made the game go up a few gears too for the neutral.

He'd be no good at Bradford, just look at Scruts!

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:12 pm  

this may be covered in the thread but

Bailey has played for 3 (?) coaches at the club, who all pick him most weeks when fit - some people must rate him, think he offers good value for whatever he is paid.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:13 pm  

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg . scruton

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg . scruton

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:13 pm  

Game On wrote:

His run and then around to Graham should prove something to the doubters.

You see, you've got that all wrong. Him going sideways looking for Graham proves he's soft, because he had to go behind Leeds players to get there. Forget the fact he was deliberately picking out an already rattled opponent, that's was just a clever smokescreen on Ryan's part.

OK with that?

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:14 pm  

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg Definitely a knock on.

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg Definitely a knock on.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:18 pm  

Let me borrow something from the end of "A Time to Kill" by John Grisham.

Close your eyes and imagine this scenario.

Leeds are playing St Helens in the cup in two weeks time. Kylie drives the ball in and is floored by a very hard tackle from Jon Wilkin. The referee calls a scrum and does not penalise Wilkin for the tackle.

Ryan Bailey is brought off the bench. He is out of control, going wild. Before play re-starts and before the scrum is formed he is in Wilkin's face, threatening him, abusing him. He's so out of control that before the scrum can pack down the referee pulls him to one side and speaks to him specifically and tries to calm him down.

Ryan won't though. He's like a mental patient and spends the next five minutes finger pointing and threatening Wilkin at every break in play. Telling him what he's going to do to him.

Now, imagine the reaction on here from fans of all teams if Bailey behaved in that manner. Just imagine it.

OK, open yours eyes. Now, think back to Friday nights game. A prop from one of the two teams behaved in exactly that manner. What reaction did it draw from fans of opposition fans? Was their widespread condemnation of the thuggish like behaviour from this player? No, there was applause. He was roundly applauded for having "sorted out" his opposite number.

Now, I have no problem with the way James graham behaved on Friday. Bailey was getting on top pf the Saints forwards and Graham came on to remedy that. He went OTT but big deal. However, the fact remains that the behaviour from white prop forward James graham was a million times worse than the behaviour of black prop forward Ryan Bailey but who gets the condemnation and who gets the plaudits?

Its' not difficult to figure out.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:19 pm  

flipper wrote:

scruton

That just goes to show that headstands on a rugby pitch are never a good idea....

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:20 pm  

G1 wrote: What rep? What has he done? Give me some specific examples? What has he done to "earn" this rep, beyond being a hard, black prop forward in a dominant Leeds team? In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg Dont you feel silly now? Just remind us who was sent off for that tackle.

G1 wrote: What rep? What has he done? Give me some specific examples? What has he done to "earn" this rep, beyond being a hard, black prop forward in a dominant Leeds team? In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg Dont you feel silly now? Just remind us who was sent off for that tackle.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:20 pm  

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg How appalling is your racism? I ask for a specific example of a Bailey incident and you provide one involving a white prop who was punished for it. The racism is rife on here.

In Torment In Hell wrote: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/21/article-1028149-01B10D7B00000578-879_468x507.jpg How appalling is your racism? I ask for a specific example of a Bailey incident and you provide one involving a white prop who was punished for it. The racism is rife on here.