Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:05 am  

Gotcha wrote:

That is the most dissapointing thing to be happening this coming weekend. Not that we have to play inexperience, or that we have top line players missing, but that we could end up with him again as Captain.

The guy simply does not deserve it, whether for one game or not. He displayed earlier in the season he is not captain material. He does far too many stupid things (discipline and defensive wise) to have the captaincy.

Captains should lead by example. Webb, Buderus, JJB would be far better options IMO.

I'd go for Webb, as he's more likely to play the full 80 than the others

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:35 am  

leicester_rhino wrote:

I'd go for Webb, as he's more likely to play the full 80 than the others

.... until he gets pinged for his next reckless high tackle!!

Re: Harlequins RL vs Leeds Rhinos : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:42 am  

No quarrels with Ablett getting a go at 6 to be honest.

He played a fair chunk of his Academy/reserve rugby there and has good hands for a back rower.

It's only the presence of the incumbent 6, 7 and 13 that have meant him changing his game as he's become a fixture in the first team.

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:56 am  

Gotcha wrote:

That is the most dissapointing thing to be happening this coming weekend. Not that we have to play inexperience, or that we have top line players missing, but that we could end up with him again as Captain.

The guy simply does not deserve it, whether for one game or not. He displayed earlier in the season he is not captain material. He does far too many stupid things (discipline and defensive wise) to have the captaincy.

Captains should lead by example. Webb, Buderus, JJB would be far better options IMO.

So Senior does too many stupid things discipline and defensive wise to deserve the captaincy yet you put Webb forward as an alternative!

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:23 pm  

Dirty Pretty Thing wrote:

So Senior does too many stupid things discipline and defensive wise to deserve the captaincy yet you put Webb forward as an alternative!

Yep, and?

What I actually said though is that captains should lead by example. I think you would find Webb's odd discipline indiscretions come at a point of him been last line of defence and stopping tries, rather than needless.

What he does with ball in hand however, and what he will probably be doing Saturday from half back, is organising the side.

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:28 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

What I actually said though is that captains should lead by example. I think you would find Webb's odd discipline indiscretions come at a point of him been last line of defence and stopping tries, rather than needless.

I wouldn't class the amount of times he gives away a cheap ten metres by not being able to keep his mouth shut as "leading by example".

Re: Harlequins RL vs Leeds Rhinos : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:38 pm  

I'd give Ablett the armband if i'm honest. Seems like a quiet man but would lead by example.

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:40 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I wouldn't class the amount of times he gives away a cheap ten metres by not being able to keep his mouth shut as "leading by example".

I'm inclined to agree with you plus how many times has he conceded a penalty in posession for lashing out or some other indiscresion to pi$$ the ref off.

Re: Harlequins V Leeds : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:48 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I wouldn't class the amount of times he gives away a cheap ten metres by not being able to keep his mouth shut as "leading by example".

He hasn't done that recently, well not if you ignore the 64th minute of Friday's game V Wakefield.

Re: Harlequins RL vs Leeds Rhinos : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:52 pm  

Is 16 minutes ago (in playing terms) not recent enough?

Mind, his penalty and error count in the previous two Leeds games was exemplary.