Re: James Segeyaro : Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:14 pm  

pep1505 wrote:

I have a feeling Chicko will turn up in Jan and all will be forgotten - I hope!

I think the club are as certain as can be he's not coming back otherwise they wouldn't have offered the shirt deal to the fans.

I don't know if you can play him now even if he did come back.

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:46 am  

pep1505 wrote:

I have a feeling Chicko will turn up in Jan and all will be forgotten - I hope!

About as likely as Denny Solomona scoring 40+ tries in a yawnion season .

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:00 am  

Him wrote:

I think the club are as certain as can be he's not coming back otherwise they wouldn't have offered the shirt deal to the fans.

I don't know if you can play him now even if he did come back.

The article on the website on 05/12 talks about a "decision to renege", so I suspect he has formally communicated a withdrawal from the contract - hence the decision at this stage to consider legal action and offer to redo the shirts, without waiting until the return date of 03/01.

I'm going to take a punt that GH will get Cameron for 2017 and get 'Smith 9' put on the back

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:33 pm  

Joking apart Leeds haven't made a big name signing to get excited about since Buderus came over in 2009. And not one this decade!

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:01 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Joking apart Leeds haven't made a big name signing to get excited about since Buderus came over in 2009. And not one this decade!

Think I said "since Lauiti'iti" a few months ago, though I'd forgotten about Buderus.

Not just a Leeds issue though is it? Big name signings are a thing of the distant past among all SL clubs over the past decade.

If I were to summarise the past decade of SL in as fewer words as possible, I'd opt for "Managed decline".

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:40 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

pep1505 wrote:

I have a feeling Chicko will turn up in Jan and all will be forgotten - I hope!

About as likely as Denny Solomona scoring 40+ tries in a yawnion season .

He will be lucky to get 40 passes if he signs for the bum sniffers mate!!

Re: James Segeyaro : Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:29 pm  

William surely you meant mismanaged decline

[Frosties.]

Re: James Segeyaro : Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:40 am  

Him wrote:

I think the club are as certain as can be he's not coming back otherwise they wouldn't have offered the shirt deal to the fans.

I don't know if you can play him now even if he did come back.

Leeds were given information that Segeyaro was telling players over in aus before anything was even announced, they just chose to ignore it.

Re: James Segeyaro : Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:41 pm  

Chestnutrhino wrote:

William surely you meant mismanaged decline

You could certainly argue a very strong case for decline as a result of mismanagement.

There has also been a managed decline which is most evident when you consider the salary cap in SL. This has fallen in real terms (accounting for inflation) by around 40% since the late 1990's and by around 30% during the last decade alone.

Some SL club chairmen have also argued for a lowering of the cap. I believe GH himself is on record somewhere of arguing for a lowering of the salary cap?

There's other stuff going on which SL management has no control over like the recession and the value of sterling against the Aussie dollar which has also had a huge effect on the number and quality of signings from down under.

However, a state of managed decline is where the game resides with little knowledge or know how of how to turn things around as clubs do little more than hang around for their next handout from Sky. The fans meanwhile are being sold turds rolled in sugar.

Re: James Segeyaro : Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:11 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Leeds were given information that Segeyaro was telling players over in aus before anything was even announced, they just chose to ignore it.

I don't think they ignored it, but it would be stupid to make any rash statements before telling Segeyaro the potential consequences of him deciding not to come back.

If we take him to court there is a decent chance we could make him pay the value of his contract (or at least some of it), I believe SBW had to do similar whn he left Canterbury.

A more useful option though, might be to buy a hooker (say Dwyer) with a transfer fee, and then Leeds could quite clearly prove to a court that Segeyaro had caused them loss of revenue, and force Segeyaro to effectively pay for his own replacement.