Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:47 pm  

Simmo71 wrote:

If Olpherts thinks he has a chance of a starting spot at Leeds, then he is the only person on the planet.
Quite honestly he will struggle at most top championship sides, hence why there's currently no takers.
Myler will be first choice at a good championship side.

Both in the last couple of years of their career.
Who would want to sit in the stands watching your career fizzle out, knowing you've very little chance of getting a game - especially if we sign Kershaw.
I know which I would rather do.

Agree. I know you see professional footballers content to sit in the stands and cash the cheque, but RL players are a different breed. He'll want to play if he can, and three extra years at 50k might be preferable to one at 70.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:28 pm  

Simmo71 wrote:

If Olpherts thinks he has a chance of a starting spot at Leeds, then he is the only person on the planet.
Quite honestly he will struggle at most top championship sides, hence why there's currently no takers.
Myler will be first choice at a good championship side.

Both in the last couple of years of their career.
Who would want to sit in the stands watching your career fizzle out, knowing you've very little chance of getting a game - especially if we sign Kershaw.
I know which I would rather do.

He'll have a chance of a starting spot if Fusitu'a and Handley pick up injuries.He also may think Kershaw cant sign while ever i'm here.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:44 pm  

Simmo - you've just explained exactly why he might prefer to stay. He knows he's a reserve at Leeds. But he's behind a player who has famously missed a lot of games. Given Miller is probably reserve stand off with Handley then moving to fullback, he could get a fair few games through that route as well, as he's effectively covering four positions. He's likely to have more opportunities to play for Leeds than most clubs as a reserve.

No other SL would want him as a starter, so he'd be in exactly the same position somewhere else, except maybe get fewer games. Quite possibly ditto for one of the better Championship sides.

If his only other option is to play first team for one season at a poor Championship team, he'll have very little chance to impress anyone. Not to mention playing in front of tiny crowds in a team that gets beaten regularly isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Also Arthur, come on, 50k for 3 years aged 33? That's not happening. He's not Ryan Hall or even Tom Briscoe. All he's got is the contract he's on. Wherever he goes after that its likely a semi-pro gig on far less than 50k or just retiring. The only way that would change is if he resurrects his career Lazarus style, which seems very unlikely wherever he plays. In his position I would definitely hold out for the same money even if I knew Leeds didn't really want me.

Don't get me wrong, he's been a failure at Leeds and as a fan I would prefer someone else in that role for next year. But we don't know if any decent side has actually shown any interest in him being anything other than a reserve, and just because we might want him to leave doesn't mean he's wrong or lacking ambition to think he's better off staying. Making up pretend options for him seems more about people wanting to see him go than the real situation he's in.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:56 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

Simmo - you've just explained exactly why he might prefer to stay. He knows he's a reserve at Leeds. But he's behind a player who has famously missed a lot of games. Given Miller is probably reserve stand off with Handley then moving to fullback, he could get a fair few games through that route as well, as he's effectively covering four positions. He's likely to have more opportunities to play for Leeds than most clubs as a reserve.

No other SL would want him as a starter, so he'd be in exactly the same position somewhere else, except maybe get fewer games. Quite possibly ditto for one of the better Championship sides.

If his only other option is to play first team for one season at a poor Championship team, he'll have very little chance to impress anyone. Not to mention playing in front of tiny crowds in a team that gets beaten regularly isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Also Arthur, come on, 50k for 3 years aged 33? That's not happening. He's not Ryan Hall or even Tom Briscoe. All he's got is the contract he's on. Wherever he goes after that its likely a semi-pro gig on far less than 50k or just retiring. The only way that would change is if he resurrects his career Lazarus style, which seems very unlikely wherever he plays. In his position I would definitely hold out for the same money even if I knew Leeds didn't really want me.

Don't get me wrong, he's been a failure at Leeds and as a fan I would prefer someone else in that role for next year. But we don't know if any decent side has actually shown any interest in him being anything other than a reserve, and just because we might want him to leave doesn't mean he's wrong or lacking ambition to think he's better off staying. Making up pretend options for him seems more about people wanting to see him go than the real situation he's in.

We'll see. I think he'll be elsewhere by Easter.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:57 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

Simmo - you've just explained exactly why he might prefer to stay. He knows he's a reserve at Leeds. But he's behind a player who has famously missed a lot of games. Given Miller is probably reserve stand off with Handley then moving to fullback, he could get a fair few games through that route as well, as he's effectively covering four positions. He's likely to have more opportunities to play for Leeds than most clubs as a reserve.

No other SL would want him as a starter, so he'd be in exactly the same position somewhere else, except maybe get fewer games. Quite possibly ditto for one of the better Championship sides.

If his only other option is to play first team for one season at a poor Championship team, he'll have very little chance to impress anyone. Not to mention playing in front of tiny crowds in a team that gets beaten regularly isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Also Arthur, come on, 50k for 3 years aged 33? That's not happening. He's not Ryan Hall or even Tom Briscoe. All he's got is the contract he's on. Wherever he goes after that its likely a semi-pro gig on far less than 50k or just retiring. The only way that would change is if he resurrects his career Lazarus style, which seems very unlikely wherever he plays. In his position I would definitely hold out for the same money even if I knew Leeds didn't really want me.

Don't get me wrong, he's been a failure at Leeds and as a fan I would prefer someone else in that role for next year. But we don't know if any decent side has actually shown any interest in him being anything other than a reserve, and just because we might want him to leave doesn't mean he's wrong or lacking ambition to think he's better off staying. Making up pretend options for him seems more about people wanting to see him go than the real situation he's in.

Yes mate, get your point.
And I guess everybody is just different and wants different things out of their career.

But he's getting bagged every week at Leeds and clearly the club want rid.
Not a very nice situation to be in as a player.

I personally don't think he will be first choice replacement if Handley or Fus get injured.
But perhaps he does - and agree with you, maybe he's backing himself there.

But in comparison to the Myler situation, for me I would have done the same as Myler.
He could get 3 good years at York, with possibly a shot at SL.
I don't think Olpherts has that ability, or that belief in himself.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:06 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

No idea how the club are viewing his progress, but he's done couple of really up beat interviews with the YEP and the Mirror. Attitude seems right.

Agreed, comes across well in the articles and the fact that he’s dropped around 2 stone suggests he’s trying to give it a real go.

If he’s anywhere near making the grade he’s probably worth a deal as a depth body given the cap exemptions.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:20 am  

He must be showing some promise as he was only on a 2 week initial trial and now's he's done 3 weeks.

Interesting to see how it pans out.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:09 am  

Would the broncos want Olpherts?

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:56 am  

He may not be available. There's nothing to say that Rohan doesn't still regard him as first choice cover - and might well have told him as much.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

He may not be available. There's nothing to say that Rohan doesn't still regard him as first choice cover - and might well have told him as much.

Don't think there is any question that the club has made him available. It's been widely reported in the media including the YP and Leeds Live. It was also reported that Leigh had shown interest. Given that that's out in the public domain I suspect Rohan has probably told him he isn't first reserve. Olpherts obviously wants to stay, but how long that position holds (for both player and club) is the big question.