: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:53 pm  

DISA wrote:

and NOBODY would have been mentioning it as given incorrectly, you included.

I'd be speaking out about it if it was missed by the officials (and I'd picked it up) just as I did after the Millenium Magic fiasco and on countless other rulings.

The integrity of the game is bigger than any individual club in my view.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:56 pm  

Wheels wrote:

Do you realise how daft that reads?

You're right!

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:56 pm  

Just so we are all in agreement here.

If one team kicks the ball upfield to the other, and the fullback collects the ball behind most of his team mates. He is tackled by the kicking team. The winger comes behind for the play the ball (only player back behind the ball), he makes a break, and passes to one of his forwards coming back.

We ALL accept that immediately that this happens, that it is a penalty to the defence?

Seriously if people really do not think that this will happen at all games, then they wont be looking. Lets look for the offence on Monday.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:58 pm  

DISA wrote:

If one team kicks the ball upfield to the other, and the fullback collects the ball behind most of his team mates. He is tackled by the kicking team. The winger comes behind for the play the ball (only player back behind the ball), he makes a break, and passes to one of his forwards coming back.

We ALL accept that immediately that this happens, that it is a penalty to the defence?

No. The referee makes a judgement that the players are attempting to get back onside and not deliberately hanging around in the oppositions defensive line.

Webb set off in support before Burrow even got past him.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:01 pm  

King Monkey wrote:

No. The referee makes a judgement that the players are attempting to get back onside and not deliberately hanging around in the oppositions defensive line.

Webb set off in support before Burrow even got past him.

How the hell can it be any different. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Either you are offiside or you are not. It was clearly stated that Webb had to go back level with the play the ball and then run forward to be onside.

I accept that a penalty may not be given. But that would be because the ref is wrong, as explained by those agreeing with the decision last night.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:06 pm  

DISA wrote:

How the hell can it be any different. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Just because you've made stupid statements dont tar us all with the same brush.

DISA wrote:

Either you are offiside or you are not.

It's down to interpretation by the referee.

DISA wrote:

But that would be because the ref is wrong, as explained by those agreeing with the decision last night.

The ref was not wrong.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:08 pm  

DISA wrote:

We ALL accept that immediately that this happens, that it is a penalty to the defence?

Seriously if people really do not think that this will happen at all games, then they wont be looking. Lets look for the offence on Monday.

Don't forget your notebook and pen will you.

Personally I'd rather it was left to a Sky game so the action can be reviewed and any such instances analized more objectively.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:09 pm  

King Monkey wrote:

Just because you've made stupid statements dont tar us all with the same brush.



It's down to interpretation by the referee.



The ref was not wrong.

Rather than been too keen for arguments Danny Keyboard warrior. Think about your posts first.

Smith clearly states yesterday evening, that had Webb gone back to the play the ball before making his run, then he would have been fine. But as he didn't then he was offside.

There is nothing about interpretation in the rule book. You sound like Stevo and his momentum rule there. You are offside or not.

You repeat again the ref was not wrong last night. Again agreeing with you on it. Therfore if the ref does not pull penalty for the example I gave above, then he would be wrong on that occassion.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:11 pm  

DISA wrote:

Smith clearly states yesterday evening, that had Webb gone back to the play the ball before making his run, then he would have been fine. But as he didn't then he was offside.

If Webb had attempted to get back rather than hanging around in the Bradford defensive line not even looking like he was trying to get back I doubt the officials would even have looked at it.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:12 pm  

DISA wrote:

Therfore if the ref does not pull penalty for the example I gave above, then he would be wrong on that occassion.

Can you give examples rather than hypothetical ones?