Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:09 am  

If McGuire is going to be out for a period I fear that his true worth will be so evident that even those who stubbornly remain oblivious will have to acknowledge it.

Oh, and to use a tired - yet valid - cliche, we (particularly the forwards) missed a proper hooker.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:21 am  

The biggest disappointment for me was we were repeatedly camped out on their line but didn't seem to have any idea how to get over. It was like we were playing thirteen stand offs, the ball was just thrown from one side of the pitch to the other with no line runners to put any doubt in Warrington's mind.

Singleton and Garbutt brought some much needed aggression and Lilley shone as both a hooker and a half. Moon also played well and was my MOTM.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:51 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Poor is the answer, as was his all round play. But we didn't win because of poor half back play in the first half of the game. All that play and no danger. Lilley is the only half we have who can dictate play and move the team around, and we should have faith in him for an extended run.

I agree re: Lilley he looks the real deal - I know Sutcliffe was injured and he hasn't played at this level for a long time but he looked well out of his depth and his inability to catch a sublime offload was costly.

I disagree re: the first half - the problem for me was we didn't capitalise on the pressure we built in the first half in the second. The game was lost when Burrow decided to put the brakes on when he saw Currie coming towards him and two shocking attempts at kicks from Hardaker. If he is the best kicker in the club we really have some issues.

On a positive I thought Ablett was much improved on last season, Ferres fitted in well, Galloway looked like he had come to play and Child could have been a whole lot worse.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:37 pm  

Leeds were comfortable last night, dominated possession and field position.

Leeds weren't panicking when 6-0 down. The first 20 minutes of 2nd half they upped the speed on play all round, a lot of credit has to go to Lilley for that. for me where they slipped up was not finding the killer punch when they were leading 10-6. if we could have pushed 2 scores clear that would have been enough.

1st game in, always expected a tough arm wrestle. Leeds were edged out, plenty more to come. nothing to worry about from a 1st hit out.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:50 pm  

I thought Leeds competed well in a game in which the pressure was arguably more on Warrington and their big-money signings after yet another season of massive underachievement. No complaints from me. It is going to take time for some individuals to feel their way into new roles - particularly relating to leadership on-field and kicking responsibilities. On top of that there have been a lot of personnel changes, and it will take time for the team to gel - the same can be said of Warrington who were far from perfect despite picking up the two points (had Leeds been in their position I'm sure someone would have reminded us that we cannot always rely on a kicker having an off-day).

I don't think a lot was on for either side, and it is far too early to criticise our halves for a lack of creativity - Sutcliffe's only just come back from a long spell injured, and McGuire wasn't on long enough. For me, the lack of on-field leadership was the biggest deficiency, and that will be sorted out with time. Looking forward to seeing Falloon, not to mention Stevie Ward coming back. Someone like JJB would have made a big difference in the leadership side of things.

Nice for the team to have things to work on at this stage of the season - no danger of them falling for the hype of the all-conquering treble champions this way.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:24 pm  

couldn't watch the game last night, just watched it back now and thought the performance was pretty good on the whole.I think we deserved the result but Warrington were very good in defence and took their chances when they came, the few which we gave them.Expect them to go much better this year.Thought Ferres fitted in nicely for us, Galloway got through some nice work and lilley did well when he came on.Can't really find much to criticise to be honest, just couldn't get the right side of a tight game but signs are good imo.

disappointing for Mcguire hopefully not too serious.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:30 pm  

That performance would generally win you 95% of your games, you completely dominated possession, just need 2 things, a better kicker and a true leader.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:40 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

That performance would generally win you 95% of your games, you completely dominated possession, just need 2 things, a better kicker and a true leader.

By the same token I can see the Wolves playing much better (dropping less ball in your 20 metre area for instance) but still losing against a side with better/slicker attacking ideas & execution.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I agree re: Lilley he looks the real deal - I know Sutcliffe was injured and he hasn't played at this level for a long time but he looked well out of his depth and his inability to catch a sublime offload was costly.

as if you're blaming him for that

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:47 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I agree re: Lilley he looks the real deal - I know Sutcliffe was injured and he hasn't played at this level for a long time but he looked well out of his depth and his inability to catch a sublime offload was costly.

I disagree re: the first half - the problem for me was we didn't capitalise on the pressure we built in the first half in the second. The game was lost when Burrow decided to put the brakes on when he saw Currie coming towards him and two shocking attempts at kicks from Hardaker. If he is the best kicker in the club we really have some issues.

On a positive I thought Ablett was much improved on last season, Ferres fitted in well, Galloway looked like he had come to play and Child could have been a whole lot worse.

The brakes that Burrow put on were quite shocking really. Normally he is so fearless and backs his pace...and he would def have made it to the line if he had backed his pace. (and won us the game). Hardaker needs to put in more practice...and be made to step aside if there is a better goalkicker on the field (Lilley).
The more I see of Lilley the more I like what I see: the kid seems to have it all with the maturity well beyond his tender years to boss players around. For me he deserves a starting slot in the halves against Widnes alongside McGuire (if fit of course). Sutcliffe if not. ... Burrow on the bench assuming Faloon is fit.