Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:16 pm  

D4mo78 wrote:

And let's have 1 set of rules for the whole sport. Not 1 for over here, 1 for NRL and 1 for international.

Which is easier said than done. We can align all the rules easily but what happens when the NRL want to change a rule?

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:18 pm  

Him wrote:

Which is easier said than done. We can align all the rules easily but what happens when the NRL want to change a rule?

The game creates an international committee that agrees the rules. It's nothing new

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:03 pm  

D4mo78 wrote:

The game creates an international committee that agrees the rules. It's nothing new

And what if the NRL doesn’t agree with the formation of an international committee to set its rules?

There’s no such thing as “The Game”. There’s the NRL, The RFL and that’s about it. There isn’t the diversity of power in the game like in football for a FIFA or UEFA style body with enough power to override the objections of one side.

If the NRL doesn’t agree to it it doesn’t happen.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:43 pm  

Him wrote:

And what if the NRL doesn’t agree with the formation of an international committee to set its rules?

There’s no such thing as “The Game”. There’s the NRL, The RFL and that’s about it. There isn’t the diversity of power in the game like in football for a FIFA or UEFA style body with enough power to override the objections of one side.

If the NRL doesn’t agree to it it doesn’t happen.

I’ve said this before but I wouldn’t be opposed to the NRL taking over the game over here. Their resources far outstrips the RFL, we would have a unified rule set, judiciary process etc. It doesn’t need to be us v them (aside from on the field).

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:17 pm  

I'm with Gotcha... again. The officials have to start applying the rules. As it stands the only players that try to play the ball end up playing it forward by accident and getting penalised. Probably why they roll it with their hand. Seeing as refs are currently letting them get away with it. Also whilst after a break when 2 on 1 against the full back I've seen a lot of final passes that have been forwards and not getting pulled back. I don't know if this is due to the officials not keeping up with play or just the BS momentum rule.

If you're talking rule changes, please get rid of the attackers not onside having to give the catcher 10 metres, because it lets people off with spilling the ball, because of a player that was nowhere near them.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:20 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

The better first start would be to re-eductate referrees in the rules of the game, instead of incorrect interpretations. They don't work to the rules at all, and the game has been completely ruined as a result.

The biggest start they could make over all, and they did it in the NRL is make them play the bloody ball properly. Literally nobody in our competition anymore actually play the ball at all. In a hell of a lot of cases, they don't even mimick the foot movement, but just simply roll it backwards. This is unacceptable, and part of the reason so much wrestling goes on at the play the ball.

100% this.

Its not actual rule changes that have done the damage, but the never ending changing "interpretations" aka ill thought-out tinkering. The leaders of the game should establish the set of rules they want and implement them regardless of the short term input of clubs and coaches.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:24 pm  

Toosmooth wrote:

I'm with Gotcha... again. The officials have to start applying the rules. As it stands the only players that try to play the ball end up playing it forward by accident and getting penalised. Probably why they roll it with their hand. Seeing as refs are currently letting them get away with it. Also whilst after a break when 2 on 1 against the full back I've seen a lot of final passes that have been forwards and not getting pulled back. I don't know if this is due to the officials not keeping up with play or just the BS momentum rule.

If you're talking rule changes, please get rid of the attackers not onside having to give the catcher 10 metres, because it lets people off with spilling the ball, because of a player that was nowhere near them.

The momentum rule may be incorrectly named but isn’t BS. Without it you would have an entirely different game and teams would be taking it in turns to hand over possession so they weren’t pushed back in attack or it would turn attack’s to simple 1 out plays.

As for offside players within 10m of the catcher. How can they be within 10m and be nowhere near the catcher?

These are entirely different issues to making players play the ball properly which naturally slows the play the ball and so eliminates some of the need for defensive wrestle.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:30 pm  

Him wrote:

And what if the NRL doesn’t agree with the formation of an international committee to set its rules?

There’s no such thing as “The Game”. There’s the NRL, The RFL and that’s about it. There isn’t the diversity of power in the game like in football for a FIFA or UEFA style body with enough power to override the objections of one side.

If the NRL doesn’t agree to it it doesn’t happen.

I don't know. Maybe if I did I'd be doing more than just offering opinion on here. At the end of the day it's a joke to have a 'professional' sport where the rules differ depending in which way the wind blows. I do know the Aussies find it hard to look past their own coastline but surely with the right people holding the meetings, they can make people realise the state of the game and what needs to be done.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:46 pm  

Him wrote:

The momentum rule may be incorrectly named but isn’t BS. Without it you would have an entirely different game and teams would be taking it in turns to hand over possession so they weren’t pushed back in attack or it would turn attack’s to simple 1 out plays.

As for offside players within 10m of the catcher. How can they be within 10m and be nowhere near the catcher?

These are entirely different issues to making players play the ball properly which naturally slows the play the ball and so eliminates some of the need for defensive wrestle.

I never said they weren't entirely different issues.

a) It's hard enough for a full back to achieve anything when 1 v 2, without blatant forward passes like Fax's penultimate try v Dulls.

b) If a chaser is 9m away from full back, he isn't in their eye line or the reason they dropped it, Therefore IMO it should be a knock on.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:59 pm  

D4mo78 wrote:

I don't know. Maybe if I did I'd be doing more than just offering opinion on here. At the end of the day it's a joke to have a 'professional' sport where the rules differ depending in which way the wind blows. I do know the Aussies find it hard to look past their own coastline but surely with the right people holding the meetings, they can make people realise the state of the game and what needs to be done.

I don’t see it as a joke, it’s simply where the sport is at. Until we develop more nations that can compete with Australia or SL improves its on and off field strength then the Aussies are going to call the shots.
The only alternative is for us to accept whatever rule changes they bring in regardless of whether they’re suitable or not.
Or we have slightly different rules. I don’t see it as an issue at all. It’s not like one set of rules has eliminated forward passes or offside or anything. They’re very minor differences.
Most sports also have slight differences in rules from league to league or internationals. Such as the multi-ball system or VAR in football along with different rules to rank teams level on points between leagues and European/International comps.