Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:10 pm  

I suspect Martin has gone to HKR as he believes he has more chance of success there than at Leeds. Possibly, he has got a slightly better pay deal form it too, who knows.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:26 pm  

Rhyse demands are not that high but the length of contract he wanted is at Leeds they offered him 3 years and more money. If he signs for Hull KR it will be less money and shorter terms.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:52 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

FWIW I was not seriously suggesting Martin wants out because of Smith's departure. I'm just not convinced that the supposedly increased prospect of winning trophies at HKR is the main incentive either. It is all speculation really, but we don't have to automatically pick the reason that puts Leeds in a bad light.

It's not the reason that puts Leeds in a bad light though is it, it's the reason that reflects where we're are at, hkr are 10 points ahead of us sitting top of the table with a stable squad and quality coach who is progressing then year on year, we're outside the playoff's still in 'transition' needing an ove. haul of the pack and still don't have a coach confirmed for next year. I'd say HKR are obviously better places for success

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:52 pm  

Cooke report - I can believe a lot of things, but Martin signing for KR for less money and a shorter deal is horse manure. Maybe less money and a longer deal or vice versa, but both? He'll turn 32 at the start of next year, so this will be his last major contract. You can believe whatever you want about success being the cause of a move, but I'd bet the main factor is trying to maximise his remaining career earnings.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:28 am  

The Cooke Report wrote:

Rhyse demands are not that high but the length of contract he wanted is at Leeds they offered him 3 years and more money. If he signs for Hull KR it will be less money and shorter terms.

A player at the end of his career moves clubs for less money and a shorter deal.
Literally heard it all now....

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:26 am  

Not a done deal to HKR according to latest reports, wonder what's going on there ???

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:58 am  

Rixy wrote:

Not a done deal to HKR according to latest reports, wonder what's going on there ???

The BA effect?

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:22 pm  

Make him captain for next year and match what KR are offering over 2 years when he then goes with Arthur to Perth.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:55 pm  

Martin's a decent player but we need size and only have one quota spot. I know we'll miss his kicking, but when you take a close look we haven't won/lost on goal kicks very often at all, and we have a couple of options who might do OK if they train to kick goals.

As for going to Perth in 2027, really? Martin will be 34 then. There are very few forwards that age going round the NRL, and most of those are on their last legs.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:09 pm  

We may not have won/lost many by goal kicks but, when we do get over the line, going up in 6's rather than 4's has a psychological effect on opponents when chasing the scoreboard, their decision making around running plays rather than taking 2 for example. And when it is close, having a kicker like Martin means taking 2 has the same impact on opponents. It's a massive part of the game in building scoreboard pressure that, as has been said elsewhere, is probably the only facet where we currently have an advantage over the rest.