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King Monkey wrote:
Maybe a spell in prison would do Graham good.

At least he'd lose his virginity.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:57 am  
What was Reg Gasnier's nickname?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:14 am  
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What was Reg Gasnier's nickname?

Wasn't he a player whose playing career spanned an era when homosexuality was deemed a criminal offence subject to imprisonment and medical experimentation as the cure?

Society has moved on since then.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:26 am  
William Eve wrote:
Sal,

When did you make your lifestyle choice to become straight?

Which brand choice of straight did you choose? Cro-Magnon? Neanderthal? A mixture of both perhaps?

And what special treatment do you believe you are missing out on as a consequence of your aforementioned lifestyle choice?


Jeff - so if Zac had called Flannagan an ugly/ginger b@stard would that also constitute an hereditary slur? - that is if you believe homosexuality is genetic.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:39 am  
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Jeff - so if Zac had called Flannagan an ugly/ginger b@stard would that also constitute an hereditary slur? - that is if you believe homosexuality is genetic.


Here we enter some grey areas don't we?

If he called him an ugly b*****d then we have two bits to look at. The ugliness is inherently subjective, so I guess you could make a case that it is different from racial or homophobic slurring. For me, I would be happy for this just to be normal abuse of the kind that happens on sports pitches. The idea is simply to insult your target, and it is unlikely that anyone else would feel terribly offended by it. Room for debate. You could also have an exciting philosophical debate about use of the word "b*stard" as a pejorative, but I think most language scholars would tell you that the original meaning has been lost long ago, and indeed much of the stigma removed form such circumstances anyway. So this again would go down as generic insult. Which of course is not very nice, but I don't think you'd find many advocates for players being punished for being a bit mean to each other. At least I hope you wouldn't.

Ginger is different again. It is something people are born with, and as such its use as a pejorative term might well offend some people. There is, however, room (in my opinion) for a difference in how severe we perceive that offence to be. I don't know of any instance where people have suffered genuine social exclusion, or been denied access to basic rights, because of their ginger hair.

I would still think that it's one well worth steering clear of in public though.

I think the "nature vs nurture" debate might be a bit much for me this morning.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:46 am  
This is one of the issues of dealing with the PC brigade - everything is black and white - no 50 shades of grey!!
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:51 am  
I've never read 50 Shades of Grey.

I hear it's a bit, you know, rude.
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At least he'd lose his virginity.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:25 pm  
What's that New York rap music executive called?

Or that well know breakfast cereal?
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:58 pm  
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I've never read 50 Shades of Grey.

I hear it's a bit, you know, rude.


Certainly had an impact on my missus :D
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:07 pm  
BillyRhino wrote:
Oh, the irony. A poster so full of his outraged indignation at the alleged use of the word "puff" describes an official as "a dick"

A tad homophobic perhaps?



He has also accussed me of being an "apologist" in the past :D can I be offended.
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Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:31 pm  
DoubleAone wrote:
He has also accussed me of being an "apologist" in the past :D can I be offended.

Oh... I'm not the only one here who has accused you of being an apologist then? :mrgreen:
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