Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:34 pm  

christopher wrote:

Im no MacNamara fan and I hope he doesn't replace Smith but I think its unfair to compare Wane and McDermott with him.

Going to coach a near relegated catalans side to coaching the Wigan and Leeds sides wane and Mcdermott did is a different kettle of fish IMO.

Catalans aside, McNamara's tenure at Bradford has quite a lot in common with the final years of Brian Mac at Leeds (minus the trophies). Bradford were still spending full cap when McNamara was in charge, and whilst their financial woes ultimately did for their stay in SL, McNamara's time handling the pressure at a big club with expectations is hardly a ringing endorsement for him taking on another pressure job. He might be a better coach now than in 2009, but still...

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:36 pm  

christopher wrote:

the list of those that disagree will be longer

More than likely but as in most cases the minority shout louder than the majority. There has to be a reason behind the quality of NRL players Leeds are able to attract these days?

This is the by far the biggest club in SL but that is not reflected in the quality of player it attracts from the NRL:

Miller - 29 - played 19 games in the NRL
Momirovski - 27 - played 60 NRL games with 5 different clubs
Faustitua - 29 - played 108 games - had significant injury problems which is a factor in the warriors let him go
Frawley - 29 - 50 games in NRL - was a disaster at the Giants - why?
Lisone 30 - 120 NRL games

Is this the best Leeds can attract - if so why?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:43 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Catalans aside, McNamara's tenure at Bradford has quite a lot in common with the final years of Brian Mac at Leeds (minus the trophies). Bradford were still spending full cap when McNamara was in charge, and whilst their financial woes ultimately did for their stay in SL, McNamara's time handling the pressure at a big club with expectations is hardly a ringing endorsement for him taking on another pressure job. He might be a better coach now than in 2009, but still...

2009 is a very long time ago to be fair

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:45 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

More than likely but as in most cases the minority shout louder than the majority. There has to be a reason behind the quality of NRL players Leeds are able to attract these days?

This is the by far the biggest club in SL but that is not reflected in the quality of player it attracts from the NRL:

Miller - 29 - played 19 games in the NRL
Momirovski - 27 - played 60 NRL games with 5 different clubs
Faustitua - 29 - played 108 games - had significant injury problems which is a factor in the warriors let him go
Frawley - 29 - 50 games in NRL - was a disaster at the Giants - why?
Lisone 30 - 120 NRL games

Is this the best Leeds can attract - if so why?

The quality of all imports from the NRL to SL has fallen off a cliff

Theres a lot of luck now involved imo

Theyre either old and at the end of their career or younger and not getting into nrl sides

Re: Problem players : Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:18 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

The quality isn't there - and until we can attract better players especially in the forwards these struggles will continue. Add to the lack of playing quality with an even worse coaching set up and we have what we see each week. No quality, no fluency, no ideas and no structure. You can't make donkey's into thoroughbreds.

Who would you retain?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:24 pm  

Theeaststander1 wrote:

Rohan smith has left Leeds rhinos, this will be announced later today

An offer has been tabled for Steve McNamara

I hope that second part is wrong

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:26 pm  

Me too.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:33 pm  

He has done a good job with Catalans but could see him being a disaster if he came to Leeds.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:47 pm  

Mickey Mac assistant as defence coach (imagine)

Re: Problem players : Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:41 pm  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

Who would you retain?

HANDLEY
CROFT
ACKERS
OCONNER
OLEDSKI
MARTIN
BENTLEY
SINFIELD
MCDONELL
SMITH
WATTON
EDGELL
SIMPSON