Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:08 pm  

The thing if this was the start of the season and we played these teams we have lost 5 in a row to would we have had the same results? I think not ,but we would have been in trouble if we did.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:18 pm  

i think that next season will be brian mac's judgement day and rightly so,as he can then no longer get away with such a lowly league finish as is currently possible under this top 8 play off series.
next season will see this change to a straight top 4 play off series and whereby all sides will not be able to "toss it off in the weekly rounds" anymore in order to just make the cut whilst still being safe in the knowledge that 3 or 4 great play off performances could still make you grand final winners

for all of you brian mac doom mongers on here i would like to ask the question:
in a salary capped competition should it not be deemed a successful season if your club wins one of the two major trophies on offer?
saints will gladly accept the third best trophy on offer as a successful season without a doubt will they not?

some of our posters have grown up on our clubs success' and have not known what barren years without any silverware feels like,especially a challenge cup final win!

imo if brian mac doesn't deliver a top 4 finish or a cc final success in 2015 then he will probably be replaced as head coach,
although this may be a bigger job than most fans think as the next incumbent will have to rebuild a squad without at least jp and kylie,but also with an ageing pack that needs overhauling

which coach out there will be trusted with that responsibility?
(* toss it off in the weekly rounds is copyrighted by william eve)

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:42 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Whoever wins the title this year will be one of the worst teams in super league history to do so. They'll be quickly confined to the trash can of history. Cas are the only team that can loook themselves in the mirror and feel like they progressed.

I agree. The quality is lower than previous seasons. Wigan look the best team out the and have lost 2 or 3 major parts since last season.
I still think that only leeds wigan and maybe wire can win the gf

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:59 pm  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

i think that next season will be brian mac's judgement day and rightly so,as he can then no longer get away with such a lowly league finish as is currently possible under this top 8 play off series.
next season will see this change to a straight top 4 play off series and whereby all sides will not be able to "toss it off in the weekly rounds" anymore in order to just make the cut whilst still being safe in the knowledge that 3 or 4 great play off performances could still make you grand final winners

for all of you brian mac doom mongers on here i would like to ask the question:
in a salary capped competition should it not be deemed a successful season if your club wins one of the two major trophies on offer?
saints will gladly accept the third best trophy on offer as a successful season without a doubt will they not?

some of our posters have grown up on our clubs success' and have not known what barren years without any silverware feels like,especially a challenge cup final win!

imo if brian mac doesn't deliver a top 4 finish or a cc final success in 2015 then he will probably be replaced as head coach,
although this may be a bigger job than most fans think as the next incumbent will have to rebuild a squad without at least jp and kylie,but also with an ageing pack that needs overhauling

which coach out there will be trusted with that responsibility?
(* toss it off in the weekly rounds is copyrighted by william eve)

I don't think Sinfield will go beyond 2016 either unless he stays on till 2017 and do 20 years since his debut then Mags and Burrow JJB by that time Ablett and Delany will be at the vet stage too.its going to be very interesting ,but we all said let's enjoy it this period while it's here

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:01 pm  

Sinfield has already told the club he is retiring at end of 2016, and they have a plan in place for one part.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:06 pm  

I agree next year is crucial and even if it goes well there's still a thought in my mind as to whether McDermott will have reached his 'shelf life' at Leeds by the end of 2015.

Even more crucial though is what Hetherington does. Regardless of who is coach heading into 2016 & 2017, quality signings need to be made. As good as this generation who came through over 10 years ago was, they were complimented with the likes of Ali, Webb, Peacock, Leuluai etc. Cuthbertson could well be a start, but we need to be announcing another quality prop has signed at some point in the next 12 months in time for the 2016 season.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:30 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Sinfield has already told the club he is retiring at end of 2016, and they have a plan in place for one part.

Really. I thought he said He will see how he feels,but I think your right he will be 36 seems about right

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:17 am  

Next year is a big one for the likes of Singleton,Ward and Sutcliffe.They need to start taking on more responsibility and showing they can step up on a more consistent basis, all 3 have got plenty of game time under their belts now.Ward seems to have gone backwards a bit this year and it still isn't clear what his best position is, Mcdermott needs to figure out what it is and play him there without shifting him around.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Whoever wins the title this year will be one of the worst teams in super league history to do so. They'll be quickly confined to the trash can of history. Cas are the only team that can loook themselves in the mirror and feel like they progressed.

Agree with the points about quality and cas. However, another Leeds title would actually elevate the current side even farther from the trash can of history.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:39 am  

History will ignore the standard, the winners will be ,rightly, remembered