Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:52 am  

lampyboy wrote:

It was a typical bottom of the table clash and would not normally be shown on sky. Unfortunately it was and boy did the sky team try to spam it up.

I agree, two injury ravaged teams struggling to find last season's form.
Both teams will improve when the regulars return and make the top 8. However neither team will make the top 4 this season so Wembley is the only hope of silverware for both Giants and Rhinos.
Let's hope for a West Yorkshire final between both teams.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:17 pm  

On current form we will not make the top 4 but I would expect our form to improve and when the injured return we could easily catch up the leaders who are only 6 points ahead and who could well have their own injury problems and dip in form still to come.

Indeed with Garbutt back next week and if JJB and Falloon were also to play we could still beat Wigan next week.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:31 pm  

DHM wrote:

With two players off injured, Delaney strapped and struggling (as usual) and tiring conditions, of course he didn't get on.

Delaney with 42 tackles struggled once again to maintain his position as our top tackler

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:42 pm  

What was the attendance last night?

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:54 pm  

Maverick Rhino wrote:

What was the attendance last night?

Soaked, cold & thoroughly dispirited by our display I'd guess.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:16 pm  

Maverick Rhino wrote:

What was the attendance last night?

14,962 - all as OF said

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:16 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Delaney with 42 tackles struggled once again to maintain his position as our top tackler

Never quite understood why "top tackler" is held in such high regard as an accolade.

If you play long minutes in the middle unit and the other side play a forward focussed game, you're going to be asked to make a lot of tackles. It's why invariably the "top tackler" in SL at the end of the season is a hooker who plays 70-80 minutes a week (Alker, Houghton, Roby etc).

More important statistically is tackle effectiveness (% of tackles made against tackles attempted) and the quality of defensive efforts, i.e. how often does the tackler lose the contact allowing a quick play the ball which you cant necessarily measure statistically.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:51 am  

Not one for the purists but we dug in and got the win we desperately needed Singleton was my M.O.M but i also think Lilley played well at 7 despite being hammered and making a few errors when switched to 9.
I also thought Keinhorst and Mullally looked decent off the bench but again i question why on at least 4 occasions Baldwinson was up and ready to come on but wasn't used especially when Delaney was on lone leg from the start of the 2nd half in a forward dominated game against a big pack????
Hopefully we gain confidence and get 2/3 bodies back for the Pies game but saying that it doesn't sound too good for Moon/Handley.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:03 am  

I think Lilley gets credit for his goalkicking, but he made a terrible read for the winning try. It was Keinhorst's persistence that got him out of jail for blowing a clear 3 on 2 by kicking.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:18 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Never quite understood why "top tackler" is held in such high regard as an accolade.

Because tackling is one of the key areas of rugby and the main one in defense and a player regularly making 40 tackles rightly should win accolades.

Andy Gilder wrote:

If you play long minutes in the middle unit and the other side play a forward focussed game, you're going to be asked to make a lot of tackles. It's why invariably the "top tackler" in SL at the end of the season is a hooker who plays 70-80 minutes a week (Alker, Houghton, Roby etc).

True as in the same way it is invariably the fullbacks that make the most metres. However Delaney is a back rower and makes tackles all over the field and is easily our top tackler this season with 153 in 4 games. Not bad for a player that has been described as playing on one leg.

Andy Gilder wrote:

More important statistically is tackle effectiveness (% of tackles made against tackles attempted) and the quality of defensive efforts, i.e. how often does the tackler lose the contact allowing a quick play the ball which you cant necessarily measure statistically.

So by this logic Briscoe is our most effective and important tackler having made just one tackle with no misses?. By all means consider the misses too but also take into consideration the players who consistently make highest numbers of tackles are usually the ones that also make more misses too. It goes with the job of a hard grafter who is more involved in the game ie: often the lead kick chaser misses the tackle but his chase has harried and slowed the receiver sufficiently to allow arriving teammates to then make the tackle. However this good work gets recorded as a miss. Similarly a player making a one on one tackle that brings the attacker to the ground can be recorded as a miss if not completed but again allows others to complete the tackle and stop the attack.