Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:34 am  

G1 wrote:

Ok, to answer your questions

I'd be very upset.

No, I wouldn't consider it a successful season.

Because Leeds would have been relegated.

Seems a daft question to me.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:07 pm  

Why is it a daft question - other posters are suggesting winning one of the two trophies available is sufficient to justify a good season. All I have suggested is perhaps that winning a trophy isn't the only consideration

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:16 pm  

The records continue to tumble

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:24 pm  

He's got to go our form for last 6 weeks has been atrocious, no enthusiasm no tactics players just don't seem to care.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:54 pm  

The league form since the 13th round hw been relegation. It can hardly be surprising that we lost today and was another abject performance. What must have Hethrington scared stiff is the fact that their recents performances and the standard of rugby played is not an advt to renew your season ticket. Time for Hethington to either sack Mc D or insist he gets an attacking coach because in that aspect of the game he has proved himself devoid of ideas.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:56 pm  

I think what will irk GH more than anything is the fact that we wont be part of a money spinning match against an NRL side despite it expanding to 3 games on the back of his lobbying.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:03 pm  

What this means now is Mcdermott's days are numbered.

If we'd gone far in the playoffs there would have been credit in the bank for an iffy season next year.

But the ending to the season erodes away at the credit previous success will have given him. Remember we were only halfway through 2012 when GH was asking the question ''has this team run it's course?''. They won the GF, did nothing last season, won the CC this season but have had bottom of the table form in the league for months. They weren't saving themselves for the main event like we thought because there was nothing in the tank tonight and they crashed out against whipping boy rabble. Leeds just weren't good enough to whip the rabble and that's pretty damning.

When leeds crashed out in 2006 (quite a similiar performance to tonight) they hadn't won a trophy in 2 years but they had young key players who just hadn't completly become winners yet. Now the key men are getting old.

Mcdermott will have next season. If leeds don't make the playoffs he'll be moved on, and so will quite a few of the players.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:06 pm  

You can't play an attacking brand of rugby when you have the 2 slowest halves in the comp plus a coach who has no idea what attacking rugby is if it came up a slapped him in the face. I am willing to give him another year aslong as we get a number 2 in who knows how to coach said attacking rugby.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:17 pm  

Brian McDermott's League Record (as a coach). Code: Select all 2005 – Broncos – 6th 2006 - Harlequins – 7th (1<) 2007 - Harlequins – 9th (2<) 2008 - Harlequins – 9th (-) 2009 - Harlequins – 11th (2<) 2010 - Harlequins – 13th (2<) 2010 – Leeds – 4th 2011 – Leeds – 5th (1<) 2012 – Leeds – 5th (-) 2013 – Leeds – 3rd (2>) 2014 – Leeds – 6th (3<) This is our worst league finishing position in 18 years and yet he is Leeds' most successful coach ever - now there's a paradox!

Brian McDermott's League Record (as a coach). Code: Select all 2005 – Broncos – 6th 2006 - Harlequins – 7th (1<) 2007 - Harlequins – 9th (2<) 2008 - Harlequins – 9th (-) 2009 - Harlequins – 11th (2<) 2010 - Harlequins – 13th (2<) 2010 – Leeds – 4th 2011 – Leeds – 5th (1<) 2012 – Leeds – 5th (-) 2013 – Leeds – 3rd (2>) 2014 – Leeds – 6th (3<) This is our worst league finishing position in 18 years and yet he is Leeds' most successful coach ever - now there's a paradox!

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:22 pm  

He is our most successful coach ever as the players have managed to get him out the mess his dour style produces unfortunately they are not good enough to do it anymore.