Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:42 pm  

Which clubs will be willing to reduce from 27 games to 18. None could afford the loss in income. particularly as an increase in the SC is also being suggested.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:54 pm  

something needs to change. What we've had for the last 15 years or so has slowly made the game over here worse. The bigger picture needs looking at.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:11 pm  

It is difficult for any other pro sport in the UK to get traction outside of soccer. Rugby Union has the benefit of the old boys' network and ex players in senior business positions etc., and it has had a much stronger international calendar for as long as I can remember.

We can tinker around with the format of the game, and there is an argument for it, but ultimately there are bigger forces at play I think. I do think the cap needs to be raised or got rid of, but you'd have to look at crowd data etc. Even attendance habits change with the advent of streaming services etc.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:12 pm  

Should we be looking at say 2 mini leagues of 8 to be played home and away =14 games.
Top 3 in each league play home and away =10 games
Top 2 play in the GF.
That leaves the other 10 teams to maybe do something similar i.e straight knockout or another mini league and play on the same day as the GF for the GF Plate.
You would then be including 4 Championship teams based on the IMG gradings such as Wakefield, Bulls, Toulouse.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm  

The 2005 WCC against Canterbury came up on my YouTube feed, so I watched it for the first time in a long time. Honestly, the speed of the ruck and lack of wrestling made for a far more entertaining product. They could improve the product in a few weeks by getting the wrestling out of the game and speeding up the ruck.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:33 am  

I think the only way to even partly achieve that would be to ban more than 2 players in the tackle. Otherwise how do you judge? Players are coached to let the attacking player make short yards after impact, but slow them down as they do it, and ideally flip them on their back to slow the PTB further. Judging when a tackle is complete is difficult when they do that - the only way I can see it is to reduce the strength advantage of multiple tacklers.

Reducing the number of teams is a really bad idea. There's not enough variation as it is. I'd forget these weekends off for the cup except the final as well, the season is far too disjointed.

Just my view, but I think for the good of the sport the SL teams need to be in the CC earlier, and maybe even try to fix the draw to make them play lower league sides (seeded draw maybe). The cup isn't worth squat as it is, and it would give lower league fans a chance to see SL sides, or visit SL grounds. Wouldn't people rather have a cup tie at Whitehaven or have Dewsbury visit than yet another game against a SL side?

Who knows, we might even win a game.....

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:06 am  

You're right about the cup. I'd even consider having a group stage format, which would force SL teams teams to play lower league teams. I'd also fix the draw/format so that SL teams had to play any lower league team away from home.

As for policing the number of people in the tackle. I'm not sure it needs to be that complicated. Just penalise teams for slowing it down like they did for decades. Hopefully, the new rules next season will help eliminate some of the grappling.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:23 am  

I'm sure I'm being naive, but a three second count once momentum is halted should work - it's the defenders' responsibility to clear the ruck within that time or get penalised. If the attacking player wins the tackle they can play it more quickly.

Some refs allow so much lying on it's crazy. Just have to same count for each side and police it consistently. There is so much advantage to be had with ruck speed either way that it is always going to be a refereeing job.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:06 pm  

You'd need a second ruck ref, didn't they try that in nrl ?

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:07 pm  

Emagdnim13 wrote:

You'd need a second ruck ref, didn't they try that in nrl ?

They did. We don't have enough quality refs as it stands, never mind doubling the requirement per game.