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Re: IN 2019 | Trent Merrin - Penrith Panthers Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:08 pm  

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Biff Tannen wrote:
Has to be our loose. We need another metre muncher and we have a decent squad.

Given our interest in SOL, I have hopes Merrin has been signed at 13. Will be great for Cam Smith and take pressure off Ward and Ferres. We’re rumoured to be looking for another prop which also fits this version.
Re: In | NEW SIGNING Trent Merrin Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:33 pm  
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Emagdnim13 wrote:
What would you say is his best position ?.
We look light on front rowers but heavy on back rowers and potential loose Forwards


I always preferred him as a ball playing prop forward. Obviously he can play lock too. Positional situation should crystallize once your signings are completed.
Re: IN 2019 | Trent Merrin - Penrith Panthers Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:53 am  

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Hopefully we still have cap space for a big forward, if we let Garbutt go in order to sign another loose forward and resign JJB and Ablett then it is a huge mistake and we will get bullied by every team with a big pack

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In the YEP article the other day he’s described as a “prop” and the “front rower” so perhaps that suggests where he will play?

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In the YEP article the other day he’s described as a “prop” and the “front rower” so perhaps that suggests where he will play?


Cuthbertson will be the loose forward prop, if he is still here, not sure why people are thinking different.
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Re: IN 2019 | Trent Merrin - Penrith Panthers Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:29 am  

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I think Ablett will go well next season, to be honest. I would've only given him a 1 year deal see how it goes beyond that, but a back row of:

Ward
Ablett/Ferres/JJB/Smith
Merrin/Cuthbertson

Isn't too bad in the short term at least. Plus JJB and Ferres will probably be leaving at the end of the season anyway, so keeping for another season gives us plenty of time to plan ahead.
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It confuses me why people want to see him at loose and not Prop. They are basically the same position these days

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The Eagle wrote:
It confuses me why people want to see him at loose and not Prop. They are basically the same position these days


It’s mandatory for a prop to make the hard yards up the middle. A loose can be more choosy, run wider, later on in the set etc. That’s not really the same

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Les Norton wrote:
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It confuses me why people want to see him at loose and not Prop. They are basically the same position these days


It’s mandatory for a prop to make the hard yards up the middle. A loose can be more choosy, run wider, later on in the set etc. That’s not really the same


Absolutely this - whilst the modern 13 is very much still a 'middle', you expect your props to be taking the hard yards every set and in those situations where the defence is set and waiting for them - the suicide runs where at best you're going to make 8-10 meters and find your front with zero chance of anything else happening. Your 13 can do a bit of that work, but you'd prefer them playing on the back of one of those drives. So prop takes that hard run, tries to get a quick ptb, 13 then hits the guts on the back of that momentum.
There's a more varies role at 13. Just playing your 13 as another out and out prop reduces the variety in your play, as they just end up knackered. It's only a subtle difference, but makes a huge difference. A good example of this is Jason Taumalolo - he's an absolute beast, but is far more effective playing on the back of a Matt Scott hard yards type drive where the defence line has at least been bent than he is taking that hard yard drive himself. JT looks great when Matt Scott doesn't play, JT looks almost unstoppable when Matt Scott does play.
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