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Re: Relegation : Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:03 pm  
Gotcha wrote:
I would get rid of obstruction full stop


How can you get rid of obstruction full stop?
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Re: Relegation : Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:14 pm  
Biff Tannen wrote:
How can you get rid of obstruction full stop?

Exactly. Maybe instead of getting North American teams to play Rugby League, we should just play Canadian or American Football.
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Re: Relegation : Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:28 pm  
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How can you get rid of obstruction full stop?


What difference does it make. They can’t get it right anyway. Removed the concept of dummy runners now. Would be easier to rule on if there was no such rule, and allow it to happen. It’s a joke as it stands, so what harm to it can it do?
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Re: Relegation : Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:57 pm  
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What difference does it make. They can’t get it right anyway. Removed the concept of dummy runners now. Would be easier to rule on if there was no such rule, and allow it to happen. It’s a joke as it stands, so what harm to it can it do?

No it’s not that’s just daft. If you removed the rule you could have blockers like in the NFL.

The concept of dummy runners have not been removed either. There’s dummy runners on virtually every play, they just have to stay onside and not get in the way of defenders.

I’d agree there’s no consistency on applying the rule but that’s not the fault of the rule or the principle of the rule it’s the fault of the officials.
However I think too many attacking plays rely on dummy runners being offside and getting in the way of defenders and hoping they get away with it. In the end obstruction is still very simple to avoid. Don’t run in front of the ball.
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Re: Relegation : Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pm  
Gotcha have you taken to the bottle in the last 24 hours?
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Re: Relegation : Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:31 am  
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The whole point is about game development, how can the game expand, the game will never grow when the men in the board room simply look after their own interests before the game as a whole. We talk about P and R, franchise in SL, salary cap etc, but the game will never move forward when the smaller teams with the lowest crowds have the same salary cap as the largest and most successful teams. It's only recently that some teams have started their own academy, they know that they have the same cap as the big teams, the sponsorship from Sky just about meets the salary cap, and half their squads are built around other teams academies. Some of the grounds aren't fit to hold cattle never mind play rugby.
Why should these clubs have the same amount of money to spend as the successful clubs. This is not the way to develop this great sport, hence we could get relegated with an injury list as long as your arm yet other teams have half of our ex academy players in their teams and they hadn't spent a penny on player development. They are described as leaches of the sport.
No othrer sport would allow such rules to exist, no other sport does, even cricket are moving forward. No wonder the sport is in dire needs.
Which sport would allow a city the size of Bradford with a great support base not to have a SL club, yet we have clubs in places where you would get higher crowds in the Scottish football third division, P and R needs to be stopped and replaced with a franchise, and if that means new teams, old teams coming together then so be it. Trible support has to be a thing of the past


If you do away with the salary cap then you will be back to Bradford scenario with even one of the most successful teams getting into financial difficulties- where does that leave the game?
Why should teams who haven’t been historically successful not have the opportunity to sign the same players? It’s already more difficult for them.
The comments you make about the academy also are just so short sighted. All these ex-academy players you moan about being in other teams- who’s fault is that????? They’ve gone because you didn’t want them!!! Scouts see a decent young lad, he’s wanted by Leeds, Wakefield and Salford- who’s he going to sign for???? Then you get rid of them and moan when they go elsewhere-possibly to a team that tried to sign them to their academy originally but they chose Leeds.
A good few years ago the RFL wanted to bring in a draft system to spread out the talent and improve every team and hence the game- Leeds and Wigan were amongst those who voted that idea down- I wonder why! Because they like being able to have their pick of the best- then YOU let them go elsewhere.
It’s like at school when all the best players get picked first- What’s the point in e.g. Salford spending a pile of money on the “what’s left” when they know you will drop half of the players they wanted in the first place.

Tribal sport being a thing of the past :CRAZY: good luck with that one- when has that EVER worked.
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Re: Relegation : Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:39 am  
I can see London beating Salford & Wakefield
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Re: Relegation : Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:44 pm  
Who thought pre season magic weekend would be a relegation 4-pointer.
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Re: Relegation : Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:08 pm  
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Who thought pre season magic weekend would be a relegation 4-pointer.


Nobody, because it isn't.
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Re: Relegation : Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:14 pm  
Brodie123 wrote:
The whole point is about game development, how can the game expand, the game will never grow when the men in the board room simply look after their own interests before the game as a whole. We talk about P and R, franchise in SL, salary cap etc, but the game will never move forward when the smaller teams with the lowest crowds have the same salary cap as the largest and most successful teams. It's only recently that some teams have started their own academy, they know that they have the same cap as the big teams, the sponsorship from Sky just about meets the salary cap, and half their squads are built around other teams academies. Some of the grounds aren't fit to hold cattle never mind play rugby.
Why should these clubs have the same amount of money to spend as the successful clubs. This is not the way to develop this great sport, hence we could get relegated with an injury list as long as your arm yet other teams have half of our ex academy players in their teams and they hadn't spent a penny on player development. They are described as leaches of the sport.
No othrer sport would allow such rules to exist, no other sport does, even cricket are moving forward. No wonder the sport is in dire needs.
Which sport would allow a city the size of Bradford with a great support base not to have a SL club, yet we have clubs in places where you would get higher crowds in the Scottish football third division, P and R needs to be stopped and replaced with a franchise, and if that means new teams, old teams coming together then so be it. Trible support has to be a thing of the past


What a snob !!! Leeds wouldn`t have been successful over the years if it hadn`t been for the smaller clubs. Plus the fact you are spending over the cap with the marquee players, I don`t see why you are complaining as you are spending more than most clubs. Leeds are lucky in that they have a massive catchment area in Leeds, population wise.
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