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Re: Relegation Tue May 21, 2019 5:47 pm  

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The cap most definitely needs raising.. it's been too low for far far top long. The game is being left behind by other sports and obliterated by the NRL and union
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 1:00 pm  

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It has been my belief for some years that the standard of RL in England has been in a state of decline. Unless those who are supposed to set the strategic agenda and direction for the sport get a grip soon I think we will see the game we love cease to exist as a competitive professional sport. There is simply not enough money in RL. The blame for that IMO sits on the shoulders of those in charge of directing and developing the game. We have taken so many decisions to spend resources trying to promote the game in the South of England, France and now the US and Canada. The priority should have been to build a competitive product in the heartlands first and from that secure base, with an attractive competitive product, promote the game at home and abroad. Instead of that we have a sport in decline grasping at straws.
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 1:10 pm  

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Could not agree more
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 1:19 pm  
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TOMCAT wrote:
It has been my belief for some years that the standard of RL in England has been in a state of decline. Unless those who are supposed to set the strategic agenda and direction for the sport get a grip soon I think we will see the game we love cease to exist as a competitive professional sport. There is simply not enough money in RL. The blame for that IMO sits on the shoulders of those in charge of directing and developing the game. We have taken so many decisions to spend resources trying to promote the game in the South of England, France and now the US and Canada. The priority should have been to build a competitive product in the heartlands first and from that secure base, with an attractive competitive product, promote the game at home and abroad. Instead of that we have a sport in decline grasping at straws.


How do you think we will get more money into RL without expanding to southern England, France, Canada and USA? Companies do not see our current demographic as being worth investing sponsorship money into. It’s less to do with the product on the field and more to do with who is tuning in to watch it on TV unfortunately.
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Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 2:36 pm  
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Easy to say the cap needs raising but where is the money coming from to pay for it?
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 2:45 pm  

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Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:
Easy to say the cap needs raising but where is the money coming from to pay for it?


Where on earth is money going to come from without, with the standard of product on show?
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Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 2:47 pm  

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Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 5:09 pm  

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TOMCAT wrote:
It has been my belief for some years that the standard of RL in England has been in a state of decline. Unless those who are supposed to set the strategic agenda and direction for the sport get a grip soon I think we will see the game we love cease to exist as a competitive professional sport. There is simply not enough money in RL. The blame for that IMO sits on the shoulders of those in charge of directing and developing the game. We have taken so many decisions to spend resources trying to promote the game in the South of England, France and now the US and Canada. The priority should have been to build a competitive product in the heartlands first and from that secure base, with an attractive competitive product, promote the game at home and abroad. Instead of that we have a sport in decline grasping at straws.

The blame for lack of money in the game sits squarely on the shoulders of the CEO’s and chairmen of the clubs. They are the ones who continue to sacrifice marketing, player development and the infrastructure of their club for short term gain by spending too much of their money on players.

In RL we have to adapt to the modern world and sadly we’re still stuck in the late 90’s where we think if we just get on Sky or BBC a few times we’ll be fine. When in reality the entire leisure, media and advertising landscape has changed massively and RL has been left behind.
People aren’t bothered about watching 2 ex-mining towns play in front of what are now viewed as small crowds in poor stadiums. Most people wouldn’t be able to place where 90% of SL clubs are on the map let alone feel any kind of affinity toward them.
We don’t have enough big games in front of big crowds between big clubs on TV and we certainly don’t follow up the big games to make any kind of long term impact.
No-one knows where the next England home game will be. No-one knows where the Magic Weekend will be.
We need to maximise the use of these games to expand the games reach. Why there was no tie-in with Newcastle when the Magic Weekend was at St James Park is just bizarre.

But we also desperately need a wider variety of clubs in SL than northern mining towns. Somewhere recognisable for people to attach themselves to.

Also, will raising the salary cap significantly actually produce better quality on the pitch? A couple more Aussies may be available but it won’t do anything to improve player production.

If we raise the cap it should be on a steady, manageable basis with a clear long term plan for how the cap will rise.
I’d also prefer to see a form of salary cap that incentivises marketing and infrastructure spending.
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 5:20 pm  

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Agree with majority of that post. Very well said. Sal cap needs upping by a fair bit but I agree it's not the answer to everything
Re: Relegation Fri May 24, 2019 6:21 pm  
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Gotcha wrote:
Where on earth is money going to come from without, with the standard of product on show?


Is this going to be new theme now? Mate is simple, if you don't like the product stop watching it. It's not difficult.
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