[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:38 pm  

I'm no Myler fan (never have been) but the above is very true.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:22 pm  

Holmes wrote:

Myler the worst Leeds number 7 ever? My memory isn't what it was but I can remember Patrick Entat, David Hulme (past his best when he came to Leeds), Paddy Handley, Gavin Brown.......

Raymond Ashton must get a mention. Magic roundabout.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:29 pm  

Quality player Ray Ashton. Did you notice I didn’t say good or bad quality...

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:38 pm  

I kind of liked Ashton. He at least looked like a proper scrum half, and had no fear of trying to organise others. He also played in the Yorks Cup win against Cas (1989?), which was only the second trophy in my time watching Leeds. mind you, it kind of helped that he was partnered by Cliff Lyons....

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:09 am  

If you like your 7 to run around in a circle Ashton was your man. Bloody awful in my opinion.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:11 am  

Classic haircut though. And I liked the constant mouthing off from one of our players instead of the opposition.

As an aside, is my memory going completely or did Gary Stephens (father of Gareth) play a game for us once in 86/87? Now he was a good player. Sadly about 10 years before he played for us (if in fact he did).

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:11 am  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:

He's played without a stand off for his entire Leeds career behind a pack getting mullered on a near weekly basis.

That may well be the case and I`m sure he would look good alongside a Blake Austin.
But you still need desire and drive and at least try to do something different even if you are playing without a stand out number 6.
Myler for me doesn`t show any of that.
Whilst not a fan of Brough I`m sure he would be no shrinking violet if he was in Myler`s shoes for instance.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:34 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote: Classic haircut though. And I liked the constant mouthing off from one of our players instead of the opposition. As an aside, is my memory going completely or did Gary Stephens (father of Gareth) play a game for us once in 86/87? Now he was a good player. Sadly about 10 years before he played for us (if in fact he did). I remember Gary Stephens as an assistant coach to Dougie Laughton in 1991-92 but don't recall him playing 1st team at all. Annoyingly there is a gap for season 1987-88 on the Leeds website "timeline": https://www.therhinos.co.uk/timeline/1980s/1986-1987/ https://www.therhinos.co.uk/timeline/1980s/1988-1989/ I'm not sure how accurate it is but the following website has him recorded as a Leeds player: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/play ... mmary.html Does anyone else remember him?

BrisbaneRhino wrote: Classic haircut though. And I liked the constant mouthing off from one of our players instead of the opposition. As an aside, is my memory going completely or did Gary Stephens (father of Gareth) play a game for us once in 86/87? Now he was a good player. Sadly about 10 years before he played for us (if in fact he did). I remember Gary Stephens as an assistant coach to Dougie Laughton in 1991-92 but don't recall him playing 1st team at all. Annoyingly there is a gap for season 1987-88 on the Leeds website "timeline": https://www.therhinos.co.uk/timeline/1980s/1986-1987/ https://www.therhinos.co.uk/timeline/1980s/1988-1989/ I'm not sure how accurate it is but the following website has him recorded as a Leeds player: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/play ... mmary.html Does anyone else remember him?

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:50 pm  

Again said with trepidation, but what is the difference between 7 and 6 these days anyway?
There is no real skill to feeding the scrum as such.
Both positions need a kicking game, distribution game, running game.
For me we could sign / develop two stand-offs and just interchange them.
If you unearth a Rob Burrow then yes you'd put them at 7 to somewhat protect them, but otherwise we just need two skilful, creative players in the halves who are good all-rounders.
Re Myler I've just not seen enough from his game this year in particular to make me think we should keep him. He's a nice lad (again) but his kicking game has been awful most of the time, and it's just not good enough I'm afraid. Yes, we've been on the back foot too much for him to breathe, but in every game we do apply pressure he fails to nail the last play time and again.

Re: SL RD 17 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:33 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Again said with trepidation, but what is the difference between 7 and 6 these days anyway?
There is no real skill to feeding the scrum as such.
Both positions need a kicking game, distribution game, running game.
For me we could sign / develop two stand-offs and just interchange them.
If you unearth a Rob Burrow then yes you'd put them at 7 to somewhat protect them, but otherwise we just need two skilful, creative players in the halves who are good all-rounders.
Re Myler I've just not seen enough from his game this year in particular to make me think we should keep him. He's a nice lad (again) but his kicking game has been awful most of the time, and it's just not good enough I'm afraid. Yes, we've been on the back foot too much for him to breathe, but in every game we do apply pressure he fails to nail the last play time and again.

The only difference is a number on a shirt, a coach has 2 half backs and how they want them to operate is down to how they want the team to play, the attributes of both and how they compliment each other.