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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:40 pm  
The coaching throughout the club has been shambolic for years now and i feel not much is going to change with this bunch . Our supposed fantastic juniors either never get any better or at best never reach their full potential .
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:41 pm  
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Don't get me wrong I can totally understand why people aren't jumping up and down with the coaching appointments made, I suppose I'm just trying to try and look at it a bit differently, I think there's a bit too much emphasis by us supporters on past CVs and the like when if you actually look at some of the successful coaches in SL over the years not all of them had great CVs before becoming successful with the clubs, there's more to it than just previous successes.

I think also a lot will come down to expectations, my expectations after the last few years are so low I'll be happy with just enjoying going to the games without the fear and nervousness of relegation hovering over us, perhaps my expectations are too low (and I hope the squad and coaches are a lot higher!) but that's where I'm at.

The thing is though re-CV's Powell had already established a good connection with the Acadamy & knew the 1st Team set up so knew exactly where the youngsters were going to come through & build round them which he did.
He may not have won a Trophy but he re-built after Lance had a short clueless reign.
Tony Smith was "well known" as an up & coming Coach with great ideas & a blueprint to take us further forward which worked.
Bluey had done a great job with the Kiwis & was the right man at the right time.
McD had worked under Smith knew the Club the players & had experienced success with Smith.
Agar Webster Jjb Walker etc NONE of them falli nto that category ok Furner was highly rated as an Assistent after a turbulent time at Canberra & it didnt work out.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:46 pm  
I'm pleased with this appointment personally. You need the right characters and personalities around a squad to set a good culture. I see JJB as being a great leader and example, as well as showing the character of a champion to the younger players.

Another way to look at it with the string of ex-players returning to the club is that we may never have had a golden generation if GH wouldn't have guranteed that he look after them in retirement, and I feel pretty comfortable with that.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:52 pm  
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The thing is though re-CV's Powell had already established a good connection with the Acadamy & knew the 1st Team set up so knew exactly where the youngsters were going to come through & build round them which he did.
He may not have won a Trophy but he re-built after Lance had a short clueless reign.
Tony Smith was "well known" as an up & coming Coach with great ideas & a blueprint to take us further forward which worked.
Bluey had done a great job with the Kiwis & was the right man at the right time.
McD had worked under Smith knew the Club the players & had experienced success with Smith.
Agar Webster Jjb Walker etc NONE of them falli nto that category ok Furner was highly rated as an Assistent after a turbulent time at Canberra & it didnt work out.


But you're looking at the with great hindsight and there is one vital ingredient that Tony Smith, Bluey and McDermott all had to work with - a core of very talented once in a generation players all coming through at the same time.

Agar has had experience of success as an assistant with Warrington Wolves and was then employed in the NRL, talk of him being a failure before is overstated.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:24 pm  
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Agar has had experience of success as an assistant with Warrington Wolves and was then employed in the NRL, talk of him being a failure before is overstated.


What success at Wire? All i ever saw on the wire boards about him was derision and blame for the slip in standards under Smith towards the end of his tenure. Same at Hull and Wakefield for that matter. His track record is of failure from what i see but i hope he can book the trend with us this season we will see.

What was his role in the NRL? First i have heard of that.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:36 pm  
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What success at Wire? All i ever saw on the wire boards about him was derision and blame for the slip in standards under Smith towards the end of his tenure. Same at Hull and Wakefield for that matter. His track record is of failure from what i see but i hope he can book the trend with us this season we will see.

What was his role in the NRL? First i have heard of that.


I wouldn't take Warrington fans opinion any more serious than any other fans on a fans forum, did they have a thread running year in year out wanting the coach to be sacked? I mean which supporters would do that, even if the team was winning SL titles and CC finals? ;-)

Whilst Agar was assistant they won a League Leaders shield and got to both the Challenge Cup Final and Grand Final he then went to work for st George as Junior Recruitment and High Performance Manager - whatever that is but working for an NRL team will have given him its of experience.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:47 pm  
FGB wrote:
Underwhelming, if not totally predictable appointment.

Zero coaching experience unless you count coaching school kids.

When will we learn?

Coached Stanningley for several years.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:27 pm  
Christ, let's get Jordan Lilley in to coach us too then.
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:38 pm  
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Coached Stanningley for several years.


Didn’t he coach the under 16s at one point too?
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Re: JJB new assistant coach : Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:26 pm  
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Didn’t he coach the under 16s at one point too?
Yep think so
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