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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:38 pm  
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Didn’t most of the other breaches involve clubs challenging for honours? If so, another sign of our ineptitude. I’ve always respected GH for what he’s achieved at HQ and at Sheffield and still do, but he’s presided over this mess for too long now.


Well no, quite the opposite in some cases like Wigan (don't know which one), Wakey, Hull, Saints, Halifax and Salford.
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:07 pm  
Saracens fined £5m and 35 points deduction! Now I know its a different sport and the offence might have been more serious, but that’s some punishment!
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:30 pm  
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Saracens fined £5m and 35 points deduction! Now I know its a different sport and the offence might have been more serious, but that’s some punishment!

It’s a strong punishment but rightly for a far far bigger offence
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:32 pm  
I dont think our clubs could afford that .
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:57 pm  
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I dont think our clubs could afford that .

Probably more than most clubs are worth!
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:23 am  
35 points! Yowser…
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:58 am  
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35 points! Yowser…



But in the RU Premiership I think a team can get 5 league points for a win so in context it isn't as bad as it seems - still pretty hefty though
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:04 am  
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I dont think our clubs could afford that .



I don't think they could afford it collectively :wink:
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:59 am  
A small points deduction for Wigan and Leeds would make sense as a deterrent to future breaches of this nature...
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Re: Salary Cap Breach : Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:34 am  
Saracens has been the worst kept secret in Rugby Union for years. They have used lawyers to pick apart the salary cap rules to pay players indirectly way more money than allowed by the cap - they actually admit this. They have taken a massive dump on the principle of the cap hoping they could take advantage of any perceived loopholes.
The fine is actually structured - it's 3 for 1 (3 quid for every 1 over the cap) and covers a 3 year period. The points deduction is not as drastic as it seems and I think it's designed to ensure they are not relegated. In neither of the last two seasons would they have been relegated if 35 points were deducted. The timing is also suspicious as there is a rumour that the premiership is going to be "ringfenced" and relegation/promotion severely limited. The fear of Leicester going down last year (and maybe this year) put the $h1ts up some people.

The bigger question is the impact on the Saracens brand (Allianz are f******g furious) and on the game in general. Few, if any, of the big clubs are financially viable without significant input from "benefactors". Sarries lose 2-3 million a year. Yet you have players on 1 million plus contracts. It's ridiculous, there isn't the money in the game to sustain club salaries of that magnitude and squad sizes of 30 plus.

There is also some rumblings about players looking to challenge the salary cap on a legal basis. Is it restriction of trade? If that happens and some well healed players and backers go after the legality of a salary cap and win the implications for all sports employing one are obvious. There could be massive fallout for RL if that happens.
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