Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:43 pm  

Don’t think Ferres leaving will change anything. No point in signing Mellor if we don’t intend to play him, and we have plenty of backrowers.

Said this before but I would rather keep our powder dry than spend up just for the sake of it, on players who aren’t high enough quality. We lack star dust not squad players.

Hard call to make for the club though because if the team doesn’t go better this year AND they haven’t spent up to cap, they’ll get roasted again.

Back to Brett; terrible signing in retrospect but at the time seemed to make sense. Injuries and form have ruined what should have been much better. Maybe he’d have had more sympathy on here if he’d managed his conditioning better at times but I’m sure he tried to make a success of it.

Players don’t really deserve the stick they get.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:25 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Don’t think Ferres leaving will change anything. No point in signing Mellor if we don’t intend to play him, and we have plenty of backrowers.

Said this before but I would rather keep our powder dry than spend up just for the sake of it, on players who aren’t high enough quality. We lack star dust not squad players.

Hard call to make for the club though because if the team doesn’t go better this year AND they haven’t spent up to cap, they’ll get roasted again.

Back to Brett; terrible signing in retrospect but at the time seemed to make sense. Injuries and form have ruined what should have been much better. Maybe he’d have had more sympathy on here if he’d managed his conditioning better at times but I’m sure he tried to make a success of it.

Players don’t really deserve the stick they get.

I appreciate what You're saying but the club have a duty to the fans to ensure the squad is as good as it can be each year. As it stands we are miles short of top 5 and that is simply unacceptable for a Leeds team. I'm not saying we have a Devine right to win something every season but Leeds should be top 5 as a minimum and the standard should be set sky high.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:36 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

I appreciate what You're saying but the club have a duty to the fans to ensure the squad is as good as it can be each year. As it stands we are miles short of top 5 and that is simply unacceptable for a Leeds team. I'm not saying we have a Devine right to win something every season but Leeds should be top 5 as a minimum and the standard should be set sky high.

I wouldnt say were miles off top 5 were in transition we need to get these kids through for long term gain but i agree we badly need a hooker, prop and winger before the start of the season.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:26 am  

I dont want the slightest hint of relegation and I know it's a very thin dividing line challenging for top 5 and in a relegation scrap . Agar has a job on his hands here

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:02 am  

absolutely it is a tightrope, and you can’t afford to be complacent and “aim” for mid table.

We have had a track record of tying ourselves up in knots by signing players who just aren’t good enough - it has been a massive effort to try to untangle it.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t sign anyone else, I’m saying we should only sign players who you could imagine winning a title with Leeds. Other than that, give the youth an opportunity where we can.

I’m not excited by any of the names we’ve been linked with so far. I am however pleased we’ve shed quite a few players who, with respect to them, were holding us back.

I’ve heard Leeds officials refer to this belief that players we sign from other clubs will improve in “our environment”. I think this has been part of the complacency, that we can stick Championship players into our world and expect to transform them (on the cheap).

Now we don’t have a single player in the England/GB team.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:49 am  

Im sure when the club signed the players you are talking about Jim it was done so in the hope they would work out. There is always a risk with every signing.

Can anyone blame GH for signing a superstar like Brett Mullins? But it didnt work out. You cant hit home runs with every buy. Plenty of our signings have failed even in our golden era.

We cant go into next year with the props and hookers we currently have.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:55 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

absolutely it is a tightrope, and you can’t afford to be complacent and “aim” for mid table.

We have had a track record of tying ourselves up in knots by signing players who just aren’t good enough - it has been a massive effort to try to untangle it.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t sign anyone else, I’m saying we should only sign players who you could imagine winning a title with Leeds. Other than that, give the youth an opportunity where we can.

I’m not excited by any of the names we’ve been linked with so far. I am however pleased we’ve shed quite a few players who, with respect to them, were holding us back.

I’ve heard Leeds officials refer to this belief that players we sign from other clubs will improve in “our environment”. I think this has been part of the complacency, that we can stick Championship players into our world and expect to transform them (on the cheap).

Now we don’t have a single player in the England/GB team.

Ash Handley will be playing against PNG

But yes your point still stands, we’ve actually shed a lot more players than I thought in such a short time, it’s obviously clear that Sinfield knows the squad isn’t where it should be.

I don’t expect to win anything next year (maybe bar a decent cup run) but we need to start better and try stay away from the relegation zone at all costs

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:16 am  

When Marrin took over as captain after Watkins left we had a 60% win ratio, if we had kept that up all season it would of been good enough for 5th

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:19 am  

christopher wrote:

Ash Handley will be playing against PNG

But yes your point still stands, we’ve actually shed a lot more players than I thought in such a short time, it’s obviously clear that Sinfield knows the squad isn’t where it should be.

I don’t expect to win anything next year (maybe bar a decent cup run) but we need to start better and try stay away from the relegation zone at all costs

Id take that tbh.
Re-Sinfield lets hope he stays away from the poundland & past it signings as well now because he added others to the deadweight we were already carrying last year.

Re: OUT 2020 | Brett Ferres - Featherstone Rovers : Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:27 am  

If you look at the squads Wigan, Wire, Saints and Hull have established, we are some way off still.

I'm actually pretty positive about the direction we're moving in now, but my word there has been an intensive care job over the past couple of years.