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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:20 am  
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Those Hanley tries from 94 and 95 sum up the way the game was played then. Whoever put the vid together picked maybe 30 of his best. There are top sides whose entire first 17 don't score such a variety of spectacular efforts over 2 seasons nowadays.



Hanley was an unbelievable player though, personally I think he's comfortably in the top 5 or even top 3 players to ever play the game.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:28 am  
Completely get the point about most players not transitioning between eras at the same level, although they would have access to better quality training methods some would still end up down t'pub.

Hanley was a standour because of his physical ability more than his passing or kicking, and that would transfer to any era. He was simply a beast of a player, someone that would be a legend no matter when they played.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:50 am  
Agree fully with the 2 previous posts. Can the modern game produce another Ellery Hanley or is the wrestle and the three man tackle king?
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:43 pm  
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Pffft......give over. Its a different sport these days to the 80s, 90s and noughties. The players now are different athletes to those days.

The reason there was more room in those days was because players trained in the pub after a game of touch n pass. There was no defensive structures whatsoever, mo idea of wrestling and tackling techniques.

Come on, we can all look back and talk about how amazing past players was, and in their era they was but its a different game now.


You're saying players from the 2000's (which ended 10 years ago) were not as fit as the players today? There is no magic wand waved now to make players "fitter" than they were 10/20 years ago. The game went pretty much full pro back in the mid 90's and full pro when SL started - over 20 years ago. The game today is littered with defensive errors, so much so that attacking play consists of hitting it one up, kicking it and seeing if someone makes a mistake. Nobody offloads and skillful passing is on the wane so defending is easy. I watched the Leeds/Saints league game from '07 last night. It was played at a pace I haven't seen in a SL game for years. The key tries had to be scored by brilliant offloading, support and passing. Defence was outstanding and attack had to be better. A lot of that Leeds team were still playing 10 years later when their legs had gone and were coping perfectly well with the "pace" of the modern game.

My guess is that the training and player development focus shifted to big lumps like we have trudging around today who can do an extra couple of laps in a bleep test rather than those who have genuine pace can pass, kick or read a game.

I hate wrestling by the way.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:44 pm  
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Agree fully with the 2 previous posts. Can the modern game produce another Ellery Hanley or is the wrestle and the three man tackle king?


Ellery Hanley would have gone straight to Union and earned 500 grand a year.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:47 pm  
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Hanley was an unbelievable player though, personally I think he's comfortably in the top 5 or even top 3 players to ever play the game.


Without a doubt. Imagine how many tries he would have scored if he'd been wearing one of the skin tight shirts they wear today? :lol: Did nobody work out that baggy shirts were easy to grab hold of? I think Bradford were the first team to tighten things up as I remember.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:18 am  
The only time Ive heard anyone accusing Bradford of cutting their cloth... :)
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:30 am  
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Personally I think from 1998 - til around 2008 was the most entertaining era, it had just the right balance of aggressive defence and free flowing attacking rugby.

Anything earlier still looks a bit old fashioned to me (not that theres anything wrong with that style it's just different), we moan about messy play the balls now but between those and the scrums the game was far messier back then.


Agree with that Christopher
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:31 am  
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Ellery Hanley would have gone straight to Union and earned 500 grand a year.


Hed have gone to NRL for more.
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Re: Full Games on Youtube : Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:05 pm  
He got the best of both worlds by playing in Oz during the off season and was fantastic there
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