FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Simon Mannering
::[url=//saints.org.uk](Website)[/url]
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 24 200321 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Jan 16 23:277th Apr 15 13:58LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Widnes(Unfortunately)
Signature
//www.imperialexiles.co.uk

: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:46 am  
ExiledWool wrote:
Shouldn't we be developing our own players so that we are no longer a laughing stock - Internationally speaking that is


Yes but don't we need to be competitive?

Are you willing to sacrifice ALL success to be the flag bearer's of the English game?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1466No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 19 200421 years341st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 22 22:5912th Oct 21 10:19LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kent
Signature
The Aussie Legend!!!

: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:24 pm  
ExiledWool wrote:
Shouldn't we be developing our own players so that we are no longer a laughing stock - Internationally speaking that is


Signing top internationals makes the British game stronger. It is the signing of fringe Kolpak/EU grandparent Aussies that makes the game weaker.

Our policy (as stated by the chairman) is to bring in the very best overseas players and develop our own players to play along side of them. I agree with this as it is the best thing for the club and the British game.

Anyone who says Mannering should not be signed is just an Aussie/Kiwi basher IMO.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2928No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 09 200520 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Dec 18 10:538th Dec 18 06:46LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Somerset

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:44 pm  
Noel Cleal wrote:
Signing top internationals makes the British game stronger. It is the signing of fringe Kolpak/EU grandparent Aussies that makes the game weaker.

Our policy (as stated by the chairman) is to bring in the very best overseas players and develop our own players to play along side of them. I agree with this as it is the best thing for the club and the British game.

Anyone who says Mannering should not be signed is just an Aussie/Kiwi basher IMO.


I'm not sure it is fair to label everyone as an Aussie basher because they don't agree with signing Mannering. More that we are in the market for a centre, plus in the near future a replacement for KC and Long, so using a quota spot, plus considerable cap space on a back rower, a position that we are fairly strong in, would be a poor use of resources.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7498
JoinedServiceReputation
May 11 200520 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Nov 23 22:068th Feb 18 21:50LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in the badlands of the metropolitan borough of Wigoon

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:55 pm  
SomersetSaint wrote:
I'm not sure it is fair to label everyone as an Aussie basher because they don't agree with signing Mannering. More that we are in the market for a centre, plus in the near future a replacement for KC and Long, so using a quota spot, plus considerable cap space on a back rower, a position that we are fairly strong in, would be a poor use of resources.


Very sensible post. Mannering is a good player but the cap only goes so far as does the ever decreasing quota (which is good) so we need to pick and choose our imports not only on class,ability and attitiude but also look carefully at area's where we are weaker in the development stakes. IMO we are well stocked in the back row and we could also look at British options outside of the club if needed.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1466No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 19 200421 years341st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 22 22:5912th Oct 21 10:19LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kent
Signature
The Aussie Legend!!!

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:03 pm  
SomersetSaint wrote:
I'm not sure it is fair to label everyone as an Aussie basher because they don't agree with signing Mannering. More that we are in the market for a centre, plus in the near future a replacement for KC and Long, so using a quota spot, plus considerable cap space on a back rower, a position that we are fairly strong in, would be a poor use of resources.


Mannering can play centre. :?

I do not understand how signing a world class player who can play in multiple positions can be anything short of a good thing. Especially when you hear some of the second raters that people suggest when they are talking about possible signing. So fans see so hung up with replace Willie Talau they seem to forget we are going to loose a number of key players in a number of positions in the next couple of years. Mannering would fill one of two gaps left by Scully and Gilmour.

Regarding our young talent coming through at the moment, we have three young centres in Foster, Dean and Armstrong as well three second rowers as Ashurst, Magennis and Dixon. We can only guess and who will make it and who will not. The Saint will be very different in the 2010 and 2011. All we can expect the club to do is sign the best talent available and (if we is available) Mannering is just that.

We have been spoilt in recent years with imports like Lyon, Farleigh and Britt playing for us that we forget how good players like Mannering are. If it is not a Jamie Lyon or SBW some people just don't want to know (unless it is some second rate back i.e. Cameron Phelps :? ). I think people need to get a grip of reality and accept that the signing of a 23 year old current NZ international would be a fantastic signing.

As I once heard a Real Madrid fan say "We don't want another donkey like Ronaldo" :? :lol:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman27757No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Jan 21 14:1929th May 18 16:25LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
In rocket surgery
Signature
An Ode to Sepp Blatter

Dadbod

Next In Line To The Throne

St Helens and a Fitting End to a Season of Unsung Heroes

Follow my wisdom on Twitter

Top 100 films of the 00s - The Top 5

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:57 pm  
Noel Cleal wrote:
I do not understand how signing a world class player


Mannering is not world class. He is a good, solid player. I'm beginning to think that some of you most have playercam on Mannering on your TV broadcasts because I'm definitely missing something.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7498
JoinedServiceReputation
May 11 200520 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Nov 23 22:068th Feb 18 21:50LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in the badlands of the metropolitan borough of Wigoon

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:15 pm  
McClennan wrote:
Mannering is not world class. He is a good, solid player. I'm beginning to think that some of you most have playercam on Mannering on your TV broadcasts because I'm definitely missing something.


I'd agree with that tbh . He is a good solid player who plays in the backrow and can cover centre.. exactly what we dont need.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2928No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 09 200520 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Dec 18 10:538th Dec 18 06:46LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Somerset

: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:53 pm  
Noel Cleal wrote:
Mannering can play centre. :?



So can Gilmour. Or Flannery. So can most back rowers, but does't make them another Gidley, or Lyon, or Talau. We need a centre, not a back rower who can fill in there and who has stated that his preferred position is second row.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5695No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 29 200718 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 12 15:318th May 12 07:01LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wigan, unfortunately.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:58 pm  
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 14,00.html
Doubt this rumour of him signing for us will materialise now.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 14,00.html
Doubt this rumour of him signing for us will materialise now.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2643No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 18 200618 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Aug 14 19:212nd Nov 13 11:06LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Formerly bouncing on the Knowsley Road terrace
Signature
Don't die with the music in you!

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:17 pm  
No1_Saints _Fan wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25057285-23214,00.html
Doubt this rumour of him signing for us will materialise now.


Never say never, Meninga and Lyon are both under contract as well :D
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 73 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to St. Helens


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
12m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40715
14m
Film game
karetaker
5591
15m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63206
17m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
26m
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
27m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
29m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
31m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
46m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
18s
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
21s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
3031
27s
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
52s
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
53s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
1m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
1m
Call for funds
Brew
191
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
3079
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
239
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
474
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1237
England's Women Demolish The W..
1065
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1300
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1092
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1351
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1899
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2117
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2361
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1935
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2170
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2638
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2062
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2142
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
12m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40715
14m
Film game
karetaker
5591
15m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63206
17m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
26m
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
27m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
29m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
31m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
46m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
18s
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
21s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
3031
27s
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
52s
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
53s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
1m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
1m
Call for funds
Brew
191
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
3079
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
239
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
474
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1237
England's Women Demolish The W..
1065
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1300
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1092
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1351
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1899
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2117
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2361
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1935
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2170
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2638
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2062
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2142


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!