Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:11 am  

wirefox wrote:

With regard to his handling skills and hi willingness to back up, I should think that KC will soon knock that out of him. Saints thrive on the drive. If that fails then our complete lack of skill is exposed.

Didn't affect McDonnell. He backed up more times than a DAT drive.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:30 am  

Full backs very rarely contest a high ball anyway.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:38 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Full backs very rarely contest a high ball anyway.

Yeah, but there's a difference between not contesting a ball kicked toward the wings and not contesting one down your throat. There have been times this season when the likes of Matt Bowen couldn't have missed it by a wider margin if they'd run the opposite way.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:42 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Yeah, but there's a difference between not contesting a ball kicked toward the wings and not contesting one down your throat. There have been times this season when the likes of Matt Bowen couldn't have missed it by a wider margin if they'd run the opposite way.

Fullbacks very rarely have to contest kicks, and if so they generally get a run up, which is why height is less important than for wingers. This is an area of the game that is pressured a lot more in Aus, so Quinlan will be fine. Fullbacks often have to catch kicks obviously, but there's absolutely no indication there'd be any dramas here. Since when was height really that important for a fullback anyway?


5'10 Billy Slater doesn't seem to have struggled with contested kicks because of his height.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:08 am  

I don't think height is a problem providing your confident of taking the high balls and prepared to put your body on the line.

For all we know, he might have a giant leap on him. We will have to wait and see.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:32 am  

Having just watched a bit more video of him, a few observations:
1) He's definitely more of a fullback than halfback. Decent step, okay enough passing game, while he doesn't seem to have much in the way in terms of organisation or long kicking game.
2) He should suit our structure pretty well. He looks most comfortable out the back of a second man play which is what we've lacked with Makinson/McDonnell/Percival at fullback. He catches the ball off his chest, is comfortable hitting the face ball to the wing on both sides, and he's got a decent grubber which will stop opposition wingers flying up.
3) He doesn't look particularly fast. I'd imagine this will mean Swift will do more kick returns, as he did when Wellens was at fullback. With Lomax at fullback, Swift averaged 8 carries a match. With Wello/Hohaia there, he averaged 16.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:00 am  

Saint #1 wrote:

Having just watched a bit more video of him, a few observations:
1) He's definitely more of a fullback than halfback. Decent step, okay enough passing game, while he doesn't seem to have much in the way in terms of organisation or long kicking game.
2) He should suit our structure pretty well. He looks most comfortable out the back of a second man play which is what we've lacked with Makinson/McDonnell/Percival at fullback. He catches the ball off his chest, is comfortable hitting the face ball to the wing on both sides, and he's got a decent grubber which will stop opposition wingers flying up.
3) He doesn't look particularly fast. I'd imagine this will mean Swift will do more kick returns, as he did when Wellens was at fullback. With Lomax at fullback, Swift averaged 8 carries a match. With Wello/Hohaia there, he averaged 16.

He does look good "out the back" and I think that's important for a modern day fullback. His support play is very good also which we need as Mcdonnell shown how important it is to have a player who backs up well.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:04 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Didn't affect McDonnell. He backed up more times than a DAT drive.

Agreed , but he's not been here that long, give him time.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:07 am  

St pete wrote:

He does look good "out the back" and I think that's important for a modern day fullback. His support play is very good also which we need as Mcdonnell shown how important it is to have a player who backs up well.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

It's probably the most important part of modern day fullback play to be honest. Almost every attacking set now by most teams is engineered to try and get the fullback on an edge with a 3 on 2, with the fullback picking the right option. This is particularly true with the fact our biggest strength is our backrow which should cause lots of defenders to make wrong decisions. Curious to see how he goes but seems like a decent signing given the circumstances.

Re: Adam Quinlan : Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:30 am  

Saint #1 wrote:

3) He doesn't look particularly fast.

He looks fast enough to me from those videos.