Wilkin leaps to Graham's defence : Fri May 22, 2009 7:18 am  

Wilkin's column for The Times http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... olumn.html

Wilkin's column for The Times http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... olumn.html

: Fri May 22, 2009 7:25 am  

Another excellent article from Wilkin......

: Fri May 22, 2009 8:14 am  

Excellent article. Well done John for being truthful, which is what this game of ours needs. What more could you ask for.

: Fri May 22, 2009 9:27 am  

Everyone is dispensable and being injured highlights that. It's quite shocking at how quick players are replaced with the new younger, leaner and improved models.

I suppose people would move on and slowly forget your contributions, occasionally stopping to reflect on a good try you scored or a memory they have of when you played.

Is this aimed at a certain Mr Long?!

: Fri May 22, 2009 9:29 am  

wellensisno1 wrote:

Everyone is dispensable and being injured highlights that. It's quite shocking at how quick players are replaced with the new younger, leaner and improved models.

I suppose people would move on and slowly forget your contributions, occasionally stopping to reflect on a good try you scored or a memory they have of when you played.

Is this aimed at a certain Mr Long?!

Quite possibly

: Fri May 22, 2009 9:51 am  

Another good article by Mr W.

However, while I agree that honesty is good and that players shouldn't feel overly constrained by a pressure to sit on the fence, if they are going to be honest then they also have to be prepared to take the consequences of their honesty. Honesty brings reaction. Sometimes that will be positive, sometimes not, sometimes in line with the intended original comment, sometimes not. Honesty is a great thing but it rarely goes without notice!

: Fri May 22, 2009 9:57 am  

I don't think anyone objects to players being honest - but I also think players have a duty to promote the sport and Graham's comments just before an event the RFL are trying to push was what got people's backs up. Especially with some nonsense assertion that the event was costing the sport money that could be spent in Cumbria?

RL has a hard enough time promoting itself without players doing down showpiece events in the press - I'm sure there were plenty of other avenues for his grievance, even just wait until AFTER the event!

Players can be as honest as they like - but they should expect the public to be equally honest back and if they think his comments were out of line, they have as much right to say so as he has to make them in the first place.

: Fri May 22, 2009 10:26 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Especially with some nonsense assertion that the event was costing the sport money that could be spent in Cumbria?

I don't think that's a nonsense comment; it's a perfectly true one: the money spent on Edinburgh could actually have been spent on supporting and developing the sport in Cumbria, a much neglected heartland. That isn't the RFL's priority at present so it was a 'wasting your breath' kind of comment really, but not a nonsense one. Besides, he's part Cumbrian so chances are he's going to be supportive of the game there isn't he? (And good on him - go for it James!)

: Fri May 22, 2009 10:49 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I don't think that's a nonsense comment; it's a perfectly true one: the money spent on Edinburgh could actually have been spent on supporting and developing the sport in Cumbria, a much neglected heartland. That isn't the RFL's priority at present so it was a 'wasting your breath' kind of comment really, but not a nonsense one. Besides, he's part Cumbrian so chances are he's going to be supportive of the game there isn't he? (And good on him - go for it James!)

Dont want to rehash the same old argument again, but he is wrong and you are wrong. MM brings money into the game, it doesnt cost anything, nothing is diverted from anywhere else.

: Fri May 22, 2009 10:57 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

it doesnt cost anything

erm its cost me about £300 !!

he should done the propper manly thing.

Question: "Does this dress look nice"
Answer: "Yes"

Question "is the MM a great idea"
Answer "Yes"