do all sts fans feel like this : Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:45 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A54111485 comments please

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A54111485 comments please

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:53 pm  

Nah, talking out of his Arris.

Re: do all sts fans feel like this : Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:54 pm  

hkrdavidhkr wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A54111485

comments please

No way, i cant wait for each weekend, i hate the end of matches, it means another week before another one!

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:59 pm  

The problem is in the ruck area where the game has slowed right down. This has effected the Saints team more than any other team as Saints rely on fast open play and quick forward play to keep momentum.
Saints for most games this season are very much in an arm wrestle now with teams smart enough to stop momentum.
This results in boring games by "Saints Standards", also the ref standards have dropped further this season which means even closer games with some occaisonally controversial decisions.
This slowing the game down will do nothing for the international side, as the aussies have changed there game to faster open rugby......which means we are going to get murdered in the next internationals.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:05 pm  

I do, Super League is a bore fest this season. As ever we went chasing the NRL believing somehow that slow, messy play the balls meant higher quality.

The NRL is better because the playing stock is better in every possible way.

Super League is less entertaining this year than ever before.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:07 pm  

We arent boring as such, though i do miss the days of us being able to score trys from further than 40 yards out.

We really need to look at bringing some genuine pace into the team so we can start scoring those long range trys again.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:23 pm  

AsI said on the other thread , where are the crafty half backs / hookers who could unlock a defence with a superb pass?

We're producing Highams, Robys, McIlorums, Moores, Lees, etc who are basically failed halfbacks.

Where are the Andy Gregs, Edwards, Dermotts, Schofields, Jacksons etc who could open up defences with a superb pass.

We've become obsessed with speed of the play the ball over skill.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:52 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

AsI said on the other thread , where are the crafty half backs / hookers who could unlock a defence with a superb pass?

We're producing Highams, Robys, McIlorums, Moores, Lees, etc who are basically failed halfbacks.

Where are the Andy Gregs, Edwards, Dermotts, Schofields, Jacksons etc who could open up defences with a superb pass.

We've become obsessed with speed of the play the ball over skill.

I feel you are being harsh on Scott Moore there. He has been pencilled in as a hooker now and he's as good as any of those hooker you mentioned in terms of ability. The half backs aren't doing too badly with plenty of 'could be's' rolling off the production line in Tomkins, Eastmond, Myler etc.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:34 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

AsI said on the other thread , where are the crafty half backs / hookers who could unlock a defence with a superb pass?

We're producing Highams, Robys, McIlorums, Moores, Lees, etc who are basically failed halfbacks.

Where are the Andy Gregs, Edwards, Dermotts, Schofields, Jacksons etc who could open up defences with a superb pass.

We've become obsessed with speed of the play the ball over skill.

Lee Jackson was one of the players that invented the running hooker role.
Martyn Dermott was nothing more than a bloke who could pass nicely from dummy half.
Edwards stood on the shoulders of Giants

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:56 pm  

The home games against Salford, Quins and Celtic this season have been moments this year where I have regretted buying a season ticket and would have rather spent the evening in the pub. They were three unbelievably boring games of rugby.