: Sun May 03, 2009 12:53 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

ade gardner aint man of steel, idiot

No he aint an idiot at all.
what he eant was it's easy to blame Gardner , but the legend that is Graham(MOS) is falling far short of where he should be.
Perhaps if he stopped beleiving his own press kept his gob shut & got back to playing Rl he would be better off.
he questions every decision squealls when he's tackled, accept it & play the ball. i know he's a crackin playe & i'll get slaughteres for this but so what,

: Sun May 03, 2009 12:53 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

We'll loan you Ainscough if you want...............he could do with some gametime at a superleague club as it looks like he'll be struggling for it here

swap you for a new zealand international?

: Sun May 03, 2009 4:03 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

We'll loan you Ainscough if you want...............he could do with some gametime at a superleague club as it looks like he'll be struggling for it here

Ya can always tell when a $hit team beat a top team coz there fans gloat where as we are just used to winning.

Wigan are now 8th and we still top of the league.

Not bad hey

: Sun May 03, 2009 4:10 am  

Both wingers look unsafe at the moment.

It's not just gardners fault on that right side.

The overlaps on that right side is unreal.

I've not seen a team so wide open out wide!!

: Mon May 04, 2009 2:18 am  

I know Ade ain't the MOS , but neither is the ginger whinger at the moment . You have a good look at your MOS and see just how much moaning he does . He's worse than Sinny is alledged to be .When things ain't going his way he spits his dummy out and sulks for long periods .
Up until recently his would have been one of the first names i would put on the teamsheet for an international game.. Not just now though with his dip in form .

A MOS with wooden head . He definitely ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to speed / basic skills / playmaking descisions just now is he .
He needs a decent coach to get him back on track .
We all know what he is capable of , and it just aint happening . Thats why i asked if he is carrying and injury .

P.S... is St Simon the patron saint of simpletons ?

Re: Ade Gardner : Mon May 04, 2009 7:14 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

Up there with Rikki Sheriffe as the shi*est winger in super league. Caught out of position for a number of try's this season. All it takes is one good pass down Ade's side from the oppositions half back and the team are away.

Funny how people call Meli for being slow. Gardner is the sloth, he cant turn for a kick to save his life. Absolute waste of a shirt.

Could have told you that ages ago.

He should never be anywhere near an international shirt again.

: Mon May 04, 2009 10:02 am  

I reckon that we have 2 of the worst wingers in SL at the moment, none are good enough and both get caught out far too easily. Gardner is always too far in field off his wing and isn't fast enough, Meli is just a lazy womans thing and a total waste of a shirt. Unfortunately we aint got any replacements so we have to stick with these 2.

Re: Ade Gardner : Mon May 04, 2009 10:33 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

Up there with Rikki Sheriffe as the shi*est winger in super league. Caught out of position for a number of try's this season. All it takes is one good pass down Ade's side from the oppositions half back and the team are away.

Funny how people call Meli for being slow. Gardner is the sloth, he cant turn for a kick to save his life. Absolute waste of a shirt.

You just dont get it do you - that is probably the hardest decision required from a winger - does he stay with his man and in the line - or drop back a little and leave a space infront of him to cover the kick.
Whatever decision he makes then there are always people like you who will condemn him for it.
Kickers have got so good at this now that it is almost an impossible task - case in point (in the Wigan game) when Gardner was off and Gidley was covering his position EXACTLY the same thing happened to him, he was no more able to make the right decision than Gardner was.
Maybe the player who is playing fullback at the time should be much further towards the corner making the decision from the winger easier.

Oh and singling out a player for what was an atrocious display from all players? Its a team sport and the mistakes of another player can make the player playing in the most exposed positions, look worse than he actually is.
Not all players will be superstars but the idea of a team sport is you play to each others strengths and compensate for other players weaknesses.

: Mon May 04, 2009 10:56 am  

I've seen a pint of milk turn quicker than Gardner. My wife would have dealt better with getting the ball out of play for the Richards try

Meli was at fault for the first try. If you are not going to contest for the ball at least clamp the man when he catches it or put him off tapping it back.

Our wingers seem to lose confidence very quickly. I still remember Gardners performance in the 2005 CC Semi.

: Mon May 04, 2009 11:24 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

We'll loan you Ainscough if you want...............he could do with some gametime at a superleague club as it looks like he'll be struggling for it here

Yes,yet another British player cast aside for Aussies by Wigan