: Fri May 15, 2009 7:55 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

It is morally wrong though, and he has seemingly shown absolutely no remorse and questioned how the girl is. (That is only from what i have read, i haven't watched the footy show)

Why sex between consenting adults, thats all it was. Did she ask how he was?

: Fri May 15, 2009 9:03 am  

As you all know on here I am someone who normally has very strong opinions on things.

This one I'm finding difficult. I watched the footy show last night and have never seen Gus Gould in such a state, he was in tears.

It looks as though Matty Johns has been "hung out to dry" by the media, Channel 9 and his former "team mates"

Why wait for seven years before resurrecting the story?

It would appear that Johns is "carrying the can" for a lot of what has been going on off the field in the NRL. For those who have not been to Australia, the NRL players are very much the soccer Premiership players over here (but without the fat wage packets)

One thing that was discussed last night was that the players will have to "keep away" from the fans and associated nightlife.

I find that difficult, because, one of the great things about our game is the approachability of our players (from all clubs) I don't know how all this will end up.

My wife watched the programme with me last night and her views were slightly different (surprise, surprise)

1) He was married, and shouldn't have had sex with the young girl

2) Why did all the other players get involved?

3) Why have they not come forward?

4) Was there actual consent?

5) Was the girl fully reasoned (I'm trying to find the right words without being disrespectful)

In many ways I feel sorry for Matty Johns, one bad night and a career ruined. It must be even more difficult for his wife and family, and the girl involved.

How many of us have not made mistakes in our lives?

: Fri May 15, 2009 12:20 pm  

Blown out of proportion big time for mine.

Reminds me of the incident involving (i think) Leicester City players when they got into Europe. Pulled a few girls, did the deed with consent, then at a later date, the girls realised they could probably make some wedge out of it at someone else's expense and changed their story.

Time to get out the permission slips before climbing into bed with someone, me thinks.

: Fri May 15, 2009 1:18 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

My wife watched the programme with me last night and hes views were slightly different

Didnt realise you were gay, nothing wrong with it pal, just shcoked, I thought you were old school and 100% lady loving.

: Fri May 15, 2009 1:43 pm  

Supreme Sydney2002 wrote:

Didnt realise you were gay, nothing wrong with it pal, just shcoked, I thought you were old school and 100% lady loving.

Ta
amended

: Fri May 15, 2009 5:03 pm  

This isn't just about the Matthew Johns thing, there was a documentary on Monday night that raised issues abuot a whole load of incidents. I posted a thread abuot it http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=409243 There's been a constant stream of stories in the Aussie press all week with some choice comments from players. I think this'll rumble on for a while.

This isn't just about the Matthew Johns thing, there was a documentary on Monday night that raised issues abuot a whole load of incidents. I posted a thread abuot it http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=409243 There's been a constant stream of stories in the Aussie press all week with some choice comments from players. I think this'll rumble on for a while.

: Fri May 15, 2009 5:06 pm  

I don't see it as 'morally wrong' as Conroy states. If she wants 6 players getting involved in her, thats her choice.

What I struggle with is this womans need to cash in now while the questions over the drink culture exist. It will lead to players losing a lot of their freedom.

I feel sorry for Matt. He was big enough to own up to his wife 7 years ago and they worked together to make things right between them. Now, 7 years later, someone wants to cash in and he loses his career and will have to work on his relationship again.

: Fri May 15, 2009 5:13 pm  

The documentary is available, in full on youtube if you missed it. Really good watch.

: Sat May 16, 2009 7:45 am  

Right....living in Australia ive seen all this from the start to where we are now...so here goes!

The woman in question was bragging about her exploits to numerous hotel staff for up to 6 days after the event, at no time during her stay in the hotel did she show she was distressed in any way.

If...and thats a big if....she didnt do this to cash in, then prove it, give the money to a charity for abused women...that way she is giving back to the people she is supposidly creating this awarness for!

She has just cashed in on Matty Johns becuase he is the one worth the money, the fact that one of the players still plays for west tigers has not even occured to her!

She started as the victim, but slowly people are begining to realise that she willing took part in all of this, and is basically just after the money.

I can see why channel 9 have taken him off the air, but, the must realise after mattys interview the other night that it will teach kids more of a lesson seeing that rather then not having him on the TV.

: Sat May 16, 2009 2:37 pm  

Don't think she went back to their room to play tiddly winks. She knew what was going to happen and was consentual with it. Don't see a problem myself, just another tart after a nice payday.