: Tue May 19, 2009 10:15 pm  

Eurob0y wrote:

Problem is, I think both Hock and O Loughlin are ahead of him at the moment for England places but in time, he will be twice the player O Loughlin is and on a par with Hock

O'Loughlins a better player then Hock.

Besides the both of them though(Hock didn't make the squad either by the way) i'd have had Clough in ahead of Westwood.

Westwoods a decent superleague player but international class long term? I wouldn't think so.

Clough on the other hand will get better and better and is ahead of Westowod even now in talent terms.

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:15 pm  

St Ty wrote:

Its not the final squad!!!

wasting your breath mate

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:18 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

wasting your breath mate

Thats why i didn't get the timing of it or why he named 17.

It's just confused everyone.

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:23 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Thats why i didn't get the timing of it or why he named 17.

It's just confused everyone.

Exactly, would have made more sense to have named 16/20/25 well any number but 17 or 13 really.

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:28 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Exactly, would have made more sense to have named 16/20/25 well any number but 17 or 13 really.

20 would have seemed a nice round figure for now.

Smith does come across as a fidgeting weirdo though.

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:31 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

20 would have seemed a nice round figure for now.

Smith does come across as a fridgeting weirdo though.

how true

: Tue May 19, 2009 10:44 pm  

Missing out on rep football this time won't do Clough any harm. He's quietly developing into a fine player. His broad physique coupled with a low centre of gravity means he's a difficult guy to bring down. Adding a few extra pounds in the off-season has increased his go-forward significantly. He makes few mistakes, has a strong engine and weighs in with his fair share of tries. I still think his big season will be the next one, but he's doing more than fine this.

: Wed May 20, 2009 5:34 am  

St Ty wrote:

Its not the final squad!!!

Never said it was!!!!!!!!!

: Wed May 20, 2009 7:29 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

20 would have seemed a nice round figure for now.

Smith does come across as a fidgeting weirdo though.

: Wed May 20, 2009 8:49 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

O'Loughlins a better player then Hock.

Besides the both of them though(Hock didn't make the squad either by the way) i'd have had Clough in ahead of Westwood.

Westwoods a decent superleague player but international class long term? I wouldn't think so.

Clough on the other hand will get better and better and is ahead of Westowod even now in talent terms.

O'Loughlin and Hock are different players. I've always thought Wigan use Pubehead wrong. He is better as a solid line runner and someone to really rely on in defence. He is an awkward ball player, and Wigan would be better suited with some one with a bit more flair at 13, allowing him to roam, tackle and make yards off his running.

Hock can be a devastating player. He is a great runner, and if he can be pulled in a bit, he can learn to utilise his offloads better. Cut out the brain farts and I would have him starting for England because he would punch holes in any defence. With players like Pryce, Burrow and Roby backing up for the offload, you have a winning combination.