: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:29 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

At the end of the day any decision on Cayless will be made in the light of one or more physicians' reports. If they think his poor form is the result of some chronic and serious injury I'm sure he'll go.

Boy am I glad I dont work for you, I've been off for 18months with both chronic and serious illness but my employer (up to now) has kept my job open for me.

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:43 pm  

diehardofowld wrote:

Boy am I glad I dont work for you, I've been off for 18months with both chronic and serious illness but my employer (up to now) has kept my job open for me.

Good for you. But surely you would not condone re-signing Cayless on a lengthy and expensive contract if you knew it was physically impossible for him to achieve what he did two or three years ago?

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:00 am  

2007 he had a big injury, came back in the team during the end of season run in and looked unfit and out of form.

Same happened in 2008.

2006 he was one of the best props in the country - unfortunately, he hasn't shown that form since. I, for one, will be very disappointed if he automatically gets a place in the 17 when he gets back to fitness.

I'll be shocked, and confused if he's at the club next season...no fault of his own, he's a brilliant player and a top guy, but unfortunately his body has let him down too much over the past 24 months.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:41 am  

It may just be he's been unlucky with a number of injuries and, with the right treatment and recovery, stands an excellent chance of returning to full fitness and form. If the medical people say that's the case I don't mind taking a punt on an extension - but the medical evidence would have to be overwhelming.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:27 am  

Mugwump wrote:

It may just be he's been unlucky with a number of injuries and, with the right treatment and recovery, stands an excellent chance of returning to full fitness and form. If the medical people say that's the case I don't mind taking a punt on an extension - but the medical evidence would have to be overwhelming.

IMO that would be a huge risk, he will be on a big wedge, i think we can use that money better elsewhere

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:54 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

IMO that would be a huge risk, he will be on a big wedge

Doubt the would after the last couple of years.

If there's plenty evidence to suggest he could fully recover and we can get him on a reduced contract due to his recent issues, I'd be tempted.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:57 am  

I think we have missed him. We only have Jammer to spearhead our attack. With respect Cloughie and Bryn do not have the same impact. Wd could do with him in the semi

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:01 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Doubt the would after the last couple of years.

If there's plenty evidence to suggest he could fully recover and we can get him on a reduced contract due to his recent issues, I'd be tempted.

If he would accept a much reduced contract, then of course, he is class and that doesn't fade. I just don't think he'll be here next year.
As ever though in Sir Mc I trust.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:05 am  

being a prop is not simply about how many hards you make and how much impact you have. Bryn and Cloughie have other qualities which make players like Jammer stand out. How often do you hear Barrie Mac on sky going on about pushing up with the ball carrier? DThis goes unoticed by many but creates the space for Jammer to look good and make breaks, quick play the balls etc.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:10 am  

We'll get one or two games of JC at the back of the season, but that is it I'm afraid folks.