Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:14 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

You must be a psychologist.

I've watched Hock since he was about 15 or 16 years of age and have never seen him feared of anyone. He and Ryan Bailey took on the all conquering Aussie schools pack at academy level and left them in tears (Mike Gregory was England academy coach at the time)
His problem has always been self control. I watched the game down at my mams and when Masoe took Dobson out you just knew that Hock would go looking for him and he didn't miss. Endless coaches have tried but you'll never change him.

In many ways it's a pity because we all saw in that first twenty minutes what a handful he can be.

I guess he's looking at another three or four match ban from last night and it's quite deserved.

Oh yeah, 5 carries for 17 metres. He really showed us what he can do that first 20 minutes. He made Dom Crosby's Grand Final performance look brilliant.

Face up to reality Hock doesn't fancy it at all against big packs. He's great at cheap shotting third man in using knees elbows eye gouging but genuine tough taking the team forwards rugby, no he doesn't fancy any of that.

Typical pie eater really.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:32 pm  

He does have a mean offload. But it was one offload in the whole match, Greenwoods (forward pass) offload was just as top draw.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:37 pm  

He's got ability, but has always been prone to a brainfart that can either be attempting a stupid offload or losing his rag.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:59 pm  

Hock is a loose cannon that i can not disagree with but wtf are we playing him at prop.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:00 pm  

george nicholls...eric chisnall and kevin ward would have flattened hock if he had been playing in those times!

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:41 pm  

RIGSBY wrote:

george nicholls...eric chisnall and kevin ward would have flattened hock if he had been playing in those times!

Not to mention Geoff Pimblett Austin Rhodes and Paddy Lannon

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:43 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

He won't though. We've seen from his interviews after the England squad stuff, he always thinks he's hard done to.

I remember reading Ian Leneghan's press release when Hock was loaned to Wigan, essentially ending his Wigan career.
It took a whole page, but basically read, "Gareth Hock is a bell end."

You're 100% right.

Hock won't have regrets, he's not clever enough to have regrets. He never learns, it's never his fault and he won't see his career as a waste in the slightest yet everyone knows how wrong he is. He's the most naturally gifted forward I've ever seen at Wigan yet it's all been thrown away.

I would say the only real positive of his career has been that it's kept him just about on the straight and narrow in his life because he seems the type that if he hadn't had rugby league he'd probably be getting free bed and board at her majesty's pleasure more often then not.

Sad really.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:02 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

You're 100% right.

Hock won't have regrets, he's not clever enough to have regrets. He never learns, it's never his fault and he won't see his career as a waste in the slightest yet everyone knows how wrong he is. He's the most naturally gifted forward I've ever seen at Wigan yet it's all been thrown away.

I would say the only real positive of his career has been that it's kept him just about on the straight and narrow in his life because he seems the type that if he hadn't had rugby league he'd probably be getting free bed and board at her majesty's pleasure more often then not.

Sad really.

Sad to say, but I agree with a Wiganer.

The other thing is how many bridges can he keep burning. Wigan done/ England done/ Widnes done / Salford gave up on them and then came back / Not sure what happened with the eels??

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:22 pm  

Incredible talent. Should have been a modern day great in SL and down under but has blown it constantly.

I fear for him when he leaves the game.

Re: Hock : Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:15 pm  

Apart from a couple of promising seasons his done nothing really. His one of them players who people think look good on the eye but in reality his doing nothing. Like rogues says 'he was giving it Saints in the first 20'. 5 hit ups for a fantastic 17 metres. He'll pull a couple of worldie off loads out the bag 5 times a season but people forgot the 5 a game that he either knocks on or passes to the opposition. Take away his 3rd man tackles and his tackling stats would be a disgrace aswel. A Myth.