Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:12 pm  

It seems to me that Saints fans have either short or selective memories. A couple of seasons ago, Meli and Wilkin carried out dreadful attacks to the heads of 2 Hull KR players. Meli nearly took the head off Hall and broke his arm in the attack which was so bad that even Child would agree when he was sent off, Wilkin merely got put on report. Both were banned which brought howls of derision from Saints fans. So can a Saints fan explain why was it so wrong for Saints players to be banned yet Green got off lightly?

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:24 pm  

cornishexpress wrote:

So can a Saints fan explain why was it so wrong for Saints players to be banned yet Green got off lightly?

If you can find evidence of your imaginary saints fan outrage at Meli being banned, I'll respond to your imaginary scenario.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:28 pm  

cornishexpress wrote:

It seems to me that Saints fans have either short or selective memories. A couple of seasons ago, Meli and Wilkin carried out dreadful attacks to the heads of 2 Hull KR players. Meli nearly took the head off Hall and broke his arm in the attack which was so bad that even Child would agree when he was sent off, Wilkin merely got put on report. Both were banned which brought howls of derision from Saints fans. So can a Saints fan explain why was it so wrong for Saints players to be banned yet Green got off lightly?

Meli was banned for a clumsy tackle - I can't recall what he got but I bet it was more than 1 game. I vaguely remember Wilkin getting something too

Green (a prop) hit Burns (a Halfback) with his shoulder (now illegal), late (illegal) and in the face (illegal). He didn't get sent off which probably cost us 2 points, he got a pathetic 1 match ban and to add insult to injury Burns got a triple fracture for his troubles. We have every right to be annoyed.

One thing I do remember clearly is the amount of wailing and crying your lot did about Meli especially.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:34 pm  

cornishexpress wrote:

It seems to me that Saints fans have either short or selective memories. A couple of seasons ago, Meli and Wilkin carried out dreadful attacks to the heads of 2 Hull KR players. Meli nearly took the head off Hall and broke his arm in the attack which was so bad that even Child would agree when he was sent off, Wilkin merely got put on report. Both were banned which brought howls of derision from Saints fans. So can a Saints fan explain why was it so wrong for Saints players to be banned yet Green got off lightly?

Erm, when you are referring to Saints fans, you should use the phrase 'some Saints fans'.

I do not have a short or a selective memory. Meli fully deserved his sending off, although calling it an "attack" is grossly misrepresenting the situation and does you no favours.

Wilkin should of walked too. Any deliberate attack to the head is disgraceful.

All I want, as a fan of my club and the game in general, is consistency. Wilkin should of seen red in the game you referred too. Green should of seen red last week. Simple.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:39 pm  

Interesting to read Eamonn questioning the inconsistencies in the disciplinary process, ironically Neil Hudgell did the same last season...

One can only expect Eamonn to cop a fine too if we're talking about consistency...

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:42 pm  

It was late, he hit the head but if we being honest, he was unlucky to kop a bad injury like he has.

For me it's a 3 game ban.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:51 pm  

Let's face it... Child was playing on as both he and the linesmen missed the tackle (just like the forward passes!!!).
It was only after Burns didn't get up, play stopped and Child watched the screen to see what had happened and then decided to put the incident on report.

This is why Imo televised games are treated different and either all should have a video ref or none at all.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:57 pm  

Phlipflop wrote:

Let's face it... Child was playing on as both he and the linesmen missed the tackle (just like the forward passes!!!).
It was only after Burns didn't get up, play stopped and Child watched the screen to see what had happened and then decided to put the incident on report.

This is why Imo televised games are treated different and either all should have a video ref or none at all.

If the video ref looked at it, then why wasn't he sent off ?

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:00 pm  

Phlipflop wrote:

Let's face it... Child was playing on as both he and the linesmen missed the tackle (just like the forward passes!!!).
It was only after Burns didn't get up, play stopped and Child watched the screen to see what had happened and then decided to put the incident on report.

This is why Imo televised games are treated different and either all should have a video ref or none at all.

a) he didn't put the incident on report
b) refs aren't allowed to watch the screen, and the video ref can only get involved if the ref asks for an opinion (child didn't iirc)
c) I absolutely agree that all games should have some form of video ref. I see no reason to remove touch judges at the top level and allow constant communication between ref and video ref. We already did so with in goal judges and it would just be an extension of that philosophy.

Re: McManus Statement on Burns Challenge : Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:09 pm  

I stand corrected... Child gave a penalty not put it on report. But I believe that was only because he was looking at the screen as Blair was about to play the ball before Child stopped the game because Burns stayed down.

Rightly or wrongly he indirectly used the screen to give the penalty.

Which goes back to the consistency issue, if the game was played on Sunday afternoon woth no screen to view, Blair plays the ball and the game continues.