Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:46 am  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Are Saints broke or something? First Ive heard about needing money.

No one said they were broke! but it is the money that has been spent, and the leadership from The Top, who really runs the club, doubt that Rush does what most club CEO's do, there has been some real bad buying of players, some of the best young player take two Gaskell & Foster left the club. Something is not right!

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:54 am  

Joke to have Roby on the bench , first 10 mins you have all the pressure and main man not on the pitch to take advantage . As for Burns

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:13 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Joke to have Roby on the bench , first 10 mins you have all the pressure and main man not on the pitch to take advantage . As for Burns

When Roby and Walmsley came on it was 0 - 0.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:14 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

When Roby and Walmsley came on it was 0 - 0.

You don't put those kind of players on the bench in big derby games.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:30 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

When Roby and Walmsley came on it was 0 - 0.

I know, we had a bit of pressure on Wigan first 15 mins, with Roby and Walmsley on we could exploited it a bit more and come away with some points. Wigan just held firm in the middle as there wasn't much of a threat then sent the ball out wide away from Roby and Walmsley when they came on. Wigan were clever in both defence and attack, Saints were just doing dumb predictable plays mostly from Walsh.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:40 pm  

jaybs wrote:

No one said they were broke! but it is the money that has been spent, and the leadership from The Top, who really runs the club, doubt that Rush does what most club CEO's do, there has been some real bad buying of players, some of the best young player take two Gaskell & Foster left the club. Something is not right!

Aye, and both of those players have proved them wrong.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:01 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Saints were just doing dumb predictable plays mostly from Walsh

This.

He's incredibly predictable and very slow. He goes nowhere near taking their line on, he runs sideways instead before throwing a pass to a forward who's stood still about 5 yards from the opposition so they have no chance of breaking the line and just get smashed instead. He offers absolutely nothing. His bottle has totally gone.

This plodding, boring, pedestrian pace is down to him. He takes all the sting out of any potential attack we can muster.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:26 am  

I can't stop you guys from wanting to axe YET ANOTHER Saints coach (remember the calls to sack Brown before he triumphed at Old Trafford?). All I'm saying is that if any person deserves to be given every last opportunity to bring success to the club it's Cunningham.

I wouldn't mind so much if we were languishing near the foot of the competition with a vastly inferior squad. But you'd have to be a fool to believe there's anyone in SL we can't beat all things being equal.

As for "appealing to sentiment" ... well, d'uh! A sport without sentiment would be a pretty poor show.

I'm always amazed by the customer-is-always-right brigade continuously moaning about "boring" football. I mean, no one is FORCING them to pay their entrance fees. Or is it that they too are feeling just a bit sentimental ... ?

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:54 am  

Mugwump wrote:

I can't stop you guys from wanting to axe YET ANOTHER Saints coach (remember the calls to sack Brown before he triumphed at Old Trafford?). All I'm saying is that if any person deserves to be given every last opportunity to bring success to the club it's Cunningham.


I'm always amazed by the customer-is-always-right brigade continuously moaning about "boring" football. I mean, no one is FORCING them to pay their entrance fees. Or is it that they too are feeling just a bit sentimental ... ?

Well I feel FORCED to sell or send my season ticket back , I,ve supported Saints for a very long time through good and bad coaches, good and bad players but one thing we have never been is BORING. Since KC took over I backed him up last season allowing him some slack to learn the coaching role, this season is going from bad to worse in how we play, ALL the players are performing worse than last season, the attitude or response of the players to pressure is shocking.
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Our coaching team is so defunct of ideas and have lowered standards so much that KC is struggling with realism in his post match quotes, a 20 min performance in a 80 min game is just not acceptable.
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The true reality is that we certainly have become the most BORING team in super league and fans will turn away (sooner than later) if it continues.

Re: Clear out - start at top : Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:15 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Well I feel FORCED to sell or send my season ticket back , I,ve supported Saints for a very long time through good and bad coaches, good and bad players but one thing we have never been is BORING. Since KC took over I backed him up last season allowing him some slack to learn the coaching role, this season is going from bad to worse in how we play, ALL the players are performing worse than last season, the attitude or response of the players to pressure is shocking.
.
Our coaching team is so defunct of ideas and have lowered standards so much that KC is struggling with realism in his post match quotes, a 20 min performance in a 80 min game is just not acceptable.
.
The true reality is that we certainly have become the most BORING team in super league and fans will turn away (sooner than later) if it continues.

I'm not going as far as sending ticket back but I'm taking a break from the saints games. I'm not going widnes or hull at home next week.