Re: Zeb Taia : Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:54 am  

So when do we find out if this is actually happening? If it's true, it would seem to make sense for Taia to arrive this week so he's got a full week with the lads before the Leigh game? Has anyone else bar this one Aussie journalist commented on it?

Re: Zeb Taia : Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:47 pm  

3 year deal for Taia according to AUS press.

Re: Zeb Taia : Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:24 pm  

I'll probably get shot down for this but I don't rate Greenwood. He's not a bad player but he's certainly not great player and doesn't seem to be progressing. As most know on here, I watched the u16s and u19s regular and I never expected him to make first team.

He does run great lines and I doubt many players in super league run those lines as well but that's all he offers. For such a big lad he doesn't run his size and constantly gets smashed when having to take a drive. He misses far to many tackles by going to high and getting knocked off. He also gives away far to many penalties from high shots and lying on.


I'd definitely put a first option on him if he does want to come home just to be safe.

Re: Zeb Taia : Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:36 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'll probably get shot down for this but I don't rate Greenwood. He's not a bad player but he's certainly not great player and doesn't seem to be progressing. As most know on here, I watched the u16s and u19s regular and I never expected him to make first team.

He does run great lines and I doubt many players in super league run those lines as well but that's all he offers. For such a big lad he doesn't run his size and constantly gets smashed when having to take a drive. He misses far to many tackles by going to high and getting knocked off. He also gives away far to many penalties from high shots and lying on.


I'd definitely put a first option on him if he does want to come home just to be safe.

He,s just hasn't,t got that aggressive streak to consistently trouble the opposition, sometimes I call him "Gentleman Joe", maybe the NRL can toughen him up. If he comes back to Superleague, Saints need to see some improvement before having the option to re sign him.

Re: Zeb Taia : Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:44 pm  

He is no great loss.

Re: Zeb Taia : Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:14 am  

redex113 wrote:

He is no great loss.

How quickly some turn on a player! lol

Re: Zeb Taia : Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:26 pm  

jaybs wrote:

How quickly some turn on a player! lol

I don't think it's about turning on a player. I wish Greenwood all the best. But he hasn't kicked on from his great early start. When he first broke into the team, his size, coupled with the lines he chose, made him all but unstoppable in the opposition 20. I thought he was going to be potentially a new Sculthorpe. But he broke his leg, and since then hasn't achieved the same pre-break form, let alone moved forward.

St Pete is correct in that he doesn't run his weight. Very tall, thin players are relatively easy tackling targets, so they have to develop methods of making themselves less easy to put to ground, like Scully's handoff, or develop an offloading game to take advantage of height and reach. Greenwood hasn't really done either. I can't say I've seen a problem with his defence, but then a second=row shouldn't have any defensive weaknesses, and we're not short of second-rows who can tackle.

So overall, I think we gain from this swap. But I hope that we make sure he goes with our best wishes and good relationships, so that if he does kick on in the crucible of the NRL, and decides to return to England, he can rejoin us a better player.

Re: Zeb Taia : Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:24 pm  

jaybs wrote:

How quickly some turn on a player! lol

Who's turned on him? Most agree he's not a big loss zeb taia is currently better than him. Not one person on this forum from what I've seen has said anything bad about him.

Re: Zeb Taia : Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:11 pm  

LMS and Walmsley now following him on Twitter.

Re: Zeb Taia : Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:50 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'll probably get shot down for this but I don't rate Greenwood. He's not a bad player but he's certainly not great player and doesn't seem to be progressing. As most know on here, I watched the u16s and u19s regular and I never expected him to make first team.

He does run great lines and I doubt many players in super league run those lines as well but that's all he offers. For such a big lad he doesn't run his size and constantly gets smashed when having to take a drive. He misses far to many tackles by going to high and getting knocked off. He also gives away far to many penalties from high shots and lying on.


I'd definitely put a first option on him if he does want to come home just to be safe.

From an outsiders point of view I agree with St Pete. Approx 18 months ago Joe and Ben Currie both came to the fore and at that time I thought that Joe looked like he could be the better player. But since that time Joe seems to have overall stagnated whilst Ben has gone from strength to strength.